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Wow, didn't see that coming. Pat Shurmur should help with continuity. If it's not health issues, why would you leave half-way through on a competitive team?
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Wow, didn't see that coming. Pat Shurmur should help with continuity. If it's not health issues, why would you leave half-way through on a competitive team?"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan -
I see a rat fleeing the viking longship. No fun being an offensive coordinator with street free agents filling out the offensive line. Hard to hang on to the "genius" tag. -
^^ Agree, it must be health or family crisis.Comment
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Nope. Apparently Mike Zimmer is a liar.
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 16m16 minutes ago
What Norv Turner, who is healthy, said of stepping away as #Vikings OC: “I don’t want anyone to think I am bailing. It just wasn’t working.”
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 19m19 minutes ago
Talked to ex-#Vikings OC Norv Turner, who hasn’t slept in days: “This was the hardest thing I’ve done in football. I respect Zim so much.”
Seems like he was pressured to step down or change role.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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No, he was being undermined and pushed by Shurmer. Everything I hear is Zimmer absolutely didn't ask him to leave let alone fire him.Originally posted by pbmax View Post
I had a strong feeling this would be his last year. I think you jumped the gun and overstated that liar accusation.Comment
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Well, unless the Tweet I read was wrong, he mentioned Turner is ill, but Turner said that did not have a bearing on his departure. So either lying or ill informed, yes?Originally posted by Rastak View PostBud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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Zimmer said he was unaware of any physical problems with Turner. He said "you'd have to ask him." Turner said he thought long and hard about it but felt the offense was moving in a direction he wasn't comfortable with. He also said they were not on the same page.Originally posted by pbmax View Post
I have no idea where the quote is that Zimmer said he was sick.
Am I misunderstanding what you are saying? Are you saying where he said there were no disputes about the offense? I believe what Turner said derives from Shurmur and Sparano in the offensive game planning meetings. I knew this would happen.
edit: From PFT
"Vikings coach Mike Zimmer, meeting with reporters on Wednesday, said he was “very, very surprised” by the decision of Turner to resign. Zimmer said that the decision was made solely by Turner.
“Norv is a very, very good friend of mine,” Zimmer said. “He’s helped me tremendously in the three years that I’ve been here. He’s had an unbelievable career. He’s been my right hand man since I’ve been here.”
There were no disputes or disagreements, Zimmer said, regarding the offense.
Zimmer said that he believes Turner is “OK” from a health perspective, but Zimmer wasn’t unequivocal on that point.
“I don’t know, you’d have to ask him,” Zimmer said. “He didn’t tell me he was ill.”Last edited by Rastak; 11-02-2016, 07:05 PM.Comment
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Nope you are not. here is the NFL.com blurb:
"He decided it was in his best interest to do this and I accept the reasons, and they are personal, and I won't get into the reasons of why he did," said Zimmer, who also said he underwent a minor surgical procedure Tuesday to repair a torn retina.
He seems to have suggested, perhaps offhandedly, that Turner did have a medical issue recently, but it was the only fact mentioned about the context for the resignation. So the Tweet I read was obviously referencing the surgery. Turner denied there was a health issue later in the day.
Rap Sheet has trouble with his pronouns but I don't think he is saying Zimmer had eye surgery.
However, without a direct quote, I cannot tell why exactly Zimmer mentioned it.
That said, I would be more worried about Pat Shurmur taking over, agitating or not. He has Norv's record for struggling without his record of success.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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Originally posted by pbmax View PostNope you are not. here is the NFL.com blurb:
He seems to have suggested, perhaps offhandedly, that Turner did have a medical issue recently, but it was the only fact mentioned about the context for the resignation. So the Tweet I read was obviously referencing the surgery. Turner denied there was a health issue later in the day.
Rap Sheet has trouble with his pronouns but I don't think he is saying Zimmer had eye surgery.
However, without a direct quote, I cannot tell why exactly Zimmer mentioned it.
ZIMMER had the surgery yesterday. HE has the torn retina.Comment
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Ah, then whoever I read misread Ian's report as I did.Originally posted by Rastak View PostBud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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Originally posted by pbmax View Post
No problem, you're one of the best posters so I was kind of surprised at your take. Tank I could understand.......
Anyway, I'm surprised he bailed in the middle like this.Comment
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My favorite conspiracy theory so far is Turner waited until the trade deadline passed to see if Spielman would find him some capable players to plug in at OL, and left when they didn't.Originally posted by Rastak View PostNo problem, you're one of the best posters so I was kind of surprised at your take. Tank I could understand.......
Anyway, I'm surprised he bailed in the middle like this.
I could see somebody undermining him...Shurmer's been an OC, Sporano a HC...maybe too many cooks in the kitchen. Maybe he's burnt out and felt it was time to step away. Who knows?Comment
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As conspiracy theories go, this one sounds plausible. Sign me up.Originally posted by run pMc View PostComment
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Wow, this is weird.
+ I like it.Comment
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