More Banjo: Week 9 vs Colts

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'Good teams find a way to adjust to the opponent and win however possible.'

I agree, but me thinks other than a handful of players, this team is not good.

That actually hasn't been McCarthy's model when winning, at least not in the second half. They tend to have the lead early and keep it.

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I tend to think McGinn gives Ted too much credit for changes to staff over the years. His articles about changes to assistant coaches include a lot of declarative statements about red lines and standards but zero quotes from inside. Even the anonymous stuff is from outside.

Given that McGinn is the only Packer guy who even attempts to report from inside the building (exceptions include Wilde getting player quotes and RapSheet knowing McCarthy's agent), I have NO idea what Ted's frustration level is. How much does he value Lacy and Starks as key parts of the offense?

But McCarthy can fix the passing game. Its not hard. But the offense needs to change. There are some signs he has made adjustments, but he has not gone over to them wholesale. They keep showing bits and pieces for a half. He needs to junk the offseason plan on fundamentals and chalkboard new routes and formations now.

They lost to the Colts for Pete's sake.

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There is no Fuckdoggle in a loss, but that Squirrel deserves some kinda award.

[Rutnstrut]

That actually hasn't been McCarthy's model when winning, at least not in the second half. They tend to have the lead early and keep it.

Agree, he does well when it's easy and most any coach could do it. When there is adversity and work, he crumbles. Soft coach, soft GM, soft team.

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Agree, he does well when it's easy and most any coach could do it. When there is adversity and work, he crumbles. Soft coach, soft GM, soft team.

Not at all. They have jumped all over very good teams many times. If it was just versus bad teams, his record would be 500, not second to New England.

[yetisnowman]

He did say it. But he said it right after saying he needs to play better too. Not like he was blaming others while refusing to take any blame himself. I think just a comment made out of frustration.

I don't care what he said before and after that's completely inappropriate for a qb to criticize his own running game after a loss.

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There are a LOT of mediocre teams that have a lot of 4th Quarter comebacks. A lot of bad teams spend the year known as the Cardiac Kids.

I trust the lead and the record more than 4th Quarter comebacks, but I suspect it does tell us something about their limitations.

[yetisnowman]

There are a LOT of mediocre teams that have a lot of 4th Quarter comebacks. A lot of bad teams spend the year known as the Cardiac Kids.

I trust the lead and the record more than 4th Quarter comebacks, but I suspect it does tell us something about their limitations.

But are there any other good teams that have hardly any 4th quarter comebacks? Aaron has 10 in 9 years. And the 4th comeback stat simply accounts for a game in which you were losing at the beginning of the 4th, but went on to win. When looking at the game by game 4th quarter comebacks were not last possession wins save for a couple. They were games in which the pack regained the lead early to midway through the 4th and never gave it up. The packers are generally very bad, when the game is in its final minutes and they are trailing by less than one score.

[denverYooper]

I'm not sure that will be the case. I suspect there was much frustration with MM and his staff for their failure to close out the Seattle playoff game and get a trip to the SB. That was followed by a 2015 season that was excused because of an injury to a WR in preseason. That was window dressing at best, and I suspect the frustration with MM grew as he did little to change what wasn't working on offense. So far, 2016 is very much a continuation of 2015. Nothing much is working offensively, and he keeps reverting to what hasn't worked for a while now.

MM's success has always been based on having a juggernaut offense because that is his area of expertise, and generally having his team ready to play when their backs have been against the wall. But he seems to have lost his touch in both areas, and it has been gone for quite a while.

2016 might actually be his "one more season." His tenure might very well be determined by the next 8 games.

I felt a little more strongly about it before I read some of the comments this morning from last night's press conferences. Those are the only evidence, really, of the frustration. If the divide between McCarthy's belief in a good week of preparation and Rodger's postgame comments on not knowing the status of key players widens, that might be a stronger signal.

As a fan, I'm frustrated. The players seem frustrated. But the only frustration level that really matters in the decision is Thompson and Murphy and they've shown to be quite patient with personnel moves.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I felt a little more strongly about it before I read some of the comments this morning from last night's press conferences. Those are the only evidence, really, of the frustration. If the divide between McCarthy's belief in a good week of preparation and Rodger's postgame comments on not knowing the status of key players widens, that might be a stronger signal.

As a fan, I'm frustrated. The players seem frustrated. But the only frustration level that really matters in the decision is Thompson and Murphy and they've shown to be quite patient with personnel moves.

Yup, frustration is evident with the players, and god knows us fans are frustrated. Part of it is probably our growing belief that the odds of us finding another good quarterback after two hall of fame quarterbacks is not in our favor. Denveryooper, ever do 'the incline' in colorado springs?

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But are there any other good teams that have hardly any 4th quarter comebacks? Aaron has 10 in 9 years. And the 4th comeback stat simply accounts for a game in which you were losing at the beginning of the 4th, but went on to win. When looking at the game by game 4th quarter comebacks were not last possession wins save for a couple. They were games in which the pack regained the lead early to midway through the 4th and never gave it up. The packers are generally very bad, when the game is in its final minutes and they are trailing by less than one score.

They are pretty unique in that regard.

Its become clear that if McCarthy doesn't practice it, it does not become part of the game until well past desperation time (think about the 2 point play versus Arizona last year that didn't happen).

But what is new is that this problem has infected the start of the game and halftime. Its entirely dependent on what the defense puts out on the field. The Packers no longer dictate anything.

The Packer offense is middle of the road by the numbers. But its still struggling compared to past iterations. But you won't beat good teams with mediocre offense and defense. And if one side is worse on a given day, you lose to the Colts.

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Zach Kruse @zachkruse2 38m38 minutes ago
Jeff Janis played 44 snaps on Sunday. More than Ty Montgomery (31), Randall Cobb (23), Trevor Davis (5). That's offensive malpractice.

Cobb was hurt, but otherwise, yes it seems to be.

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Just like my other complaints about coaching philosophy in the offseason (end of game strategy), McCarthy has started to tweak the passing game.

Jordy's first catch of the half was on a bunch and combo route where someone ran off Jordy's coverage and he crossed wide open. They ran another similar look with Davis doing a Welker in and out route, where he was WIDE open, but the QB decided to throw into the end zone.

But I still believe McCarthy has broken the QB with the be patient for the long ball approach.

He needs to commit to fixing the pass game short to make it effective versus man coverage (with routes that BEG to be covered by zone D, which the Packers still beat). Then he needs to reteach his QB how to read it short to long.

[Rutnstrut]

pb, that's way too much teaching for stubby in half a season. Hell he can't even form intelligible words during sideline interviews.

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Packer Report @PackerReport 9m9 minutes ago Green Bay, WI
Rodgers and Bulaga spoke of lack of energy. MM: "Watching it, reviewing it wtih the coaching staff, I thought there was good energy."

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 8m8 minutes ago
McCarthy on no energy: Big focus was about energy after game. Today watching, I thought there was good energy, just moments not detailed.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 9m9 minutes ago
McCarthy on team at 4-4: Just focused on details. Important each and every week. Disappointed in loss. The made more plays than us.

Green Bay Packers @packers 8m8 minutes ago
McCarthy: After watching the video, I thought our guys played with good energy. We need to be cleaner, sharpen things up. That's the focus.

Packer Report @PackerReport 10m10 minutes ago Green Bay, WI
Cobb got out of the game OK, McCarthy said. He was a late add to the actives list. Which perhaps explains some of the confusion from 12/18.

Packer Report @PackerReport 11m11 minutes ago Green Bay, WI
Matthews had a setback on Friday, which is why he didn't play. Not sure of his status for this week since it's only Monday.

Green Bay Packers @packers 4m4 minutes ago
McCarthy on C Corey Linsley: He played OK. Mental part was sharp. Some things he'll want to improve. Thought is was a solid performance.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 6m6 minutes ago
McCarthy on KOR TD: Ball placement poor and lane integrity was poor. He wasn’t touched.

CROSBY WITH BAD DAY TOO

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 7m7 minutes ago
McCarthy on energy: I’m looking for speed, I’m looking for urgency, that’s not what I was looking for. That’s the reality. We were not clean

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 10m10 minutes ago
McCarthy on defense: Have to get off the field on third down. That was a pretty good swing for the Colts.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 14m14 minutes ago
McCarthy on Cobb’s role: Decisions based on information we had. He was a late add, right before inactive. Figured he’d be limited.

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13 15m15 minutes ago
#Packers coach Mike McCarthy said Randall Cobb didn't injure the hamstring further last night. Believes he is moving forward in recovery.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 6m6 minutes ago
McCarthy on passing game: Man to man game, the middle of the field, triangle reads is principal we adhere to. TE usually benefits from that.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 13m13 minutes ago
McCarthy on team at 4-4: Just focused on details. Important each and every week. Disappointed in loss. The made more plays than us.