More Banjo: Week 9 vs Colts

[denverYooper]

Yup, frustration is evident with the players, and god knows us fans are frustrated. Part of it is probably our growing belief that the odds of us finding another good quarterback after two hall of fame quarterbacks is not in our favor. Denveryooper, ever do 'the incline' in colorado springs?

I haven't done it in about 10 years. Maybe I'll head down South and climb it in lieu of watching the game next week .

[woodbuck27]

Just like my other complaints about coaching philosophy in the offseason (end of game strategy), McCarthy has started to tweak the passing game.

Jordy's first catch of the half was on a bunch and combo route where someone ran off Jordy's coverage and he crossed wide open. They ran another similar look with Davis doing a Welker in and out route, where he was WIDE open, but the QB decided to throw into the end zone.

But I still believe McCarthy has broken the QB with the be patient for the long ball approach.

He needs to commit to fixing the pass game short to make it effective versus man coverage (with routes that BEG to be covered by zone D, which the Packers still beat). Then he needs to reteach his QB how to read it short to long.

Yes .... a good observation. Aaron Rodgers is missing his reads he too often has the blinders on and fixed on a primary receiver.

[pbmax]

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13 7m7 minutes ago
McCarthy said Ty Montgomery was on a rep count yesterday. The coaches liked the way he played. #Packers

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 7m7 minutes ago
McCarthy on run game: Ty was on a rep count. Would have liked to give Don more. Wanted to play more base than we did. Like to be 20 runs.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 6m6 minutes ago
McCarthy on Starks: Had a good week. Hit the target. Hopefully push that forward and see what happens this week.

Packer Report @PackerReport 5m5 minutes ago Green Bay, WI
MM on passing game: It's a man-to-man game. Didn't do enough to win those matchups yesterday.

[Patler]

But the only frustration level that really matters in the decision is Thompson and Murphy and they've shown to be quite patient with personnel moves.

I'm not sure if TT is patient as opposed to secretive. He extended Sherman, then fired him after one year. There was no hint to the public about wanting Favre out, but no retreat in TT either after the opportunity was there. More recently, who saw the Sitton release coming? TT could be planning to fire MM tomorrow, and it is unlikely the press would see it coming.

Murphy, too, has made front office changes that surprised a lot of those who watch the team, changes no one expected.

I'm not sure either would let on what they are thinking.

[denverYooper]

I'm not sure if TT is patient as opposed to secretive. He extended Sherman, then fired him after one year. There was no hint to the public about wanting Favre out, but no retreat in TT either after the opportunity was there. More recently, who saw the Sitton release coming? TT could be planning to fire MM tomorrow, and it is unlikely the press would see it coming.

Murphy, too, has made front office changes that surprised a lot of those who watch the team, changes no one expected.

I'm not sure either would let on what they are thinking.

They wouldn't let on what they are thinking but there often seem to be reasons outside of a dip in performance for them to move on. Favre was clearly becoming a distraction at the tail end of his career and was becoming increasingly critical of his management. Sitton was supposedly let go due to an internal incident that they've kept a lid on and he too is on the downside of his career and was rumored to be increasingly disgruntled.

Sherman was never really TT's pick and was supplanted at GM by TT. Those kinds of relationships do not generally work well in a professional environment. I have seen it play out in management before and it has always resulted in a poor relationship.

I suspect it would take more than a single subpar year for them to release a coach who has made the playoffs 7 years running and is 2nd to Belichick in winning pct among active coaches.

[Sparkey]

YEAR , O/C , Off-Rank
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2016 Edgar Bennett 14
2015 Edgar Bennett 15
2014 Tom Clements 1
2013 Tom Clements 8
2012 Tom Clements 5
2011 Joe Philbin 1
2010 Joe Philbin 10

[pbmax]

I'm not sure if TT is patient as opposed to secretive. He extended Sherman, then fired him after one year. There was no hint to the public about wanting Favre out, but no retreat in TT either after the opportunity was there. More recently, who saw the Sitton release coming? TT could be planning to fire MM tomorrow, and it is unlikely the press would see it coming.

Murphy, too, has made front office changes that surprised a lot of those who watch the team, changes no one expected.

I'm not sure either would let on what they are thinking.

I think mailing Brett his locker was a pretty public message

Well, a direct message. That Brett made public.

Patient and secretive are really not substitutes though. If Ted was secretive and not patient, a lot of coaches and first round picks would have been moved earlier.

[pbmax]

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 8m8 minutes ago
Dom Capers at the podium: We started fast. We had some hits on Luck. He ended up with a 74 rating. Felt decent about that.

Packer Report @PackerReport 8m8 minutes ago Green Bay, WI
Capers felt "decent" about performance vs. Luck. 77 rating. Played well after the second long kickoff return. Won most of first downs.

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13 14m14 minutes ago
Dom Capers said the #Packers defense was 60 percent efficient on first down. Best mark in the last few weeks.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 15m15 minutes ago
Capers: Had our best game on first down. 60% efficiency. Long run was 11 yards.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 14m14 minutes ago
Capers: Came down to two critical situations: 2-minute drill end of half. Luck completed a key third down in a zone coverage.

Packer Report @PackerReport 14m14 minutes ago Green Bay, WI
Two critical situations. First, third-and-9 at end of half from Indy 5. Second was the third-and-10 with 3:19 left. Blitzed but missed sack

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 14m14 minutes ago
Capers: Got them into a third and 10 late in the game. We blitzed, we took a shot and didn’t make the play. They made the play.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
Capers: I see things we can build on. We just have to make critical plays when we need them.

[pbmax]

Packer Report @PackerReport 8m8 minutes ago Green Bay, WI
Capers thinks his players will respond well. Back-to-back losses, now three straight on road. Defining time.

Packer Report @PackerReport 16m16 minutes ago Green Bay, WI
Last third down was an all-out blitz on third-and-2. Blitzed more than they had been blitzing past couple weeks.

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13 17m17 minutes ago
Dom Capers on the missed sack by Clinton-Dix: "We had exactly what we wanted there." Just didn't make the play on key third down. #Packers

[denverYooper]

They've solved the problem: http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=2...898226118034-4

They dropped the guy who screwed up the KO return and added a second FB.

[Patler]

I think mailing Brett his locker was a pretty public message

Well, a direct message. That Brett made public.

Patient and secretive are really not substitutes though. If Ted was secretive and not patient, a lot of coaches and first round picks would have been moved earlier.

It was a done deal before the locker was sent. At the time Favre announced his retirement, I bet most would have guessed he would be welcomed back if he asked.

The draft picks he has shown greatest patience with are mostly higher round picks who have been injured. He has scrapped quickly a lot more of his draft picks than some are willing to admit.

TT hires one coach and one coach only, the head coach. I fully expect he offers opinions about others if asked by MM, but leaves the decision to MM, just as he did with the transfer of play calling to Clements

[Bossman641]

I'm curious to see what happens if this team ever hits on a deep ball route. They are certainly getting closer to connecting on one. Will it be like a baseball team where the floodgates open?

[Patler]

They wouldn't let on what they are thinking but there often seem to be reasons outside of a dip in performance for them to move on. Favre was clearly becoming a distraction at the tail end of his career and was becoming increasingly critical of his management. Sitton was supposedly let go due to an internal incident that they've kept a lid on and he too is on the downside of his career and was rumored to be increasingly disgruntled.

Sherman was never really TT's pick and was supplanted at GM by TT. Those kinds of relationships do not generally work well in a professional environment. I have seen it play out in management before and it has always resulted in a poor relationship.

I suspect it would take more than a single subpar year for them to release a coach who has made the playoffs 7 years running and is 2nd to Belichick in winning pct among active coaches.

This is the second year of poor performance. Making the playoffs last year was more of a fluke than deserved. MM performed poor as HC in the playoff loss to Seattle, and mostly ever since.

[Patler]

YEAR , O/C , Off-Rank
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2016 Edgar Bennett 14
2015 Edgar Bennett 15
2014 Tom Clements 1
2013 Tom Clements 8
2012 Tom Clements 5
2011 Joe Philbin 1
2010 Joe Philbin 10

Maybe EB is neither OC nor HC material?
I think he was a great position coach. His position groups always performed well

[hoosier]

I haven't done it in about 10 years. Maybe I'll head down South and climb it in lieu of watching the game next week .

If you can run the entire thing in under 8 min miles I will guarantee the Packers run the table this season.