Official FIRE Mike McCarthy thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SMBASS]

I agree with this as well. The RB situation this season is ENTIRELY on Thompson. That is an enormous blunder for the GM of a professional football team.

I've never understood this mindset of RB's not being important in the NFL anymore. (Not just TT) Think Marshawn Lynch had any effect on Seattle...think Ezekial Elliott is having an effect with Dallas this year? (Yeah they have a great O Line which doesn't hurt.) You just can't be a 1 dimensional O with no threat of a run game and be successful. And TT's complete disregard for good/competent inside linebackers for many years just drove me nuts watching every team continue to exploit the middle of the field again and again. I understand you can't afford to have all pro players at every position but at some point you have to give a position more attention than just UDFA's and 7th round stiffs if it's an Achilles heel over and over.

As I've said before...I don't in any way think TT has been a complete failure, but some of his moves or lack of moves over the years have made no sense to me. I wouldn't be too broken up if both he and Stubby were replaced. They've had their run.

[pbmax]

I agree with this as well. The RB situation this season is ENTIRELY on Thompson. That is an enormous blunder for the GM of a professional football team. Toss in Thompson's inability to find a capable, healthy replacement for Finley for years...the ridiculously handled departure of Sitton...and the overall downward trend this team has witnessed over the last 2 years and you have enough reasons to think Thompson's best days are behind him.

It is better to just hire a new GM after this season and let that person assemble a new brain trust...rather than leave Thompson in place to oversee a transition that he won't see the conclusion of anyway.

They ran thin at RB because the talent was at WR and elsewhere. They had Cobb and Monty to back that up and they don't wear out RBs like some teams. It was an eminently reasonable decision at the start of the season. Crockett and the other dude were not lighting it up.

You can't find a Pro Bowl TE every year. Patriots took 6 years and they took two because they weren't sure what they had. They drafted about 8 TEs before that trying to find one.

Though I think I agree that Ted should not necessarily get to make the next coach pick. I don't think he is going to stick around that long. Am not convinced the Eliot Wolf should get the job. Being the son of someone isn't a qualification.

[Jimx29]

Just think if they only would of listened to me 3-4 years ago about deer-in-the-headlights lardass

...oh, and whoever the jackwagon is the is supposed to be a strength and conditioning coach....punch his/her ticket out of town too

[wpony]

I have been a big mm supporter all the way up till 2 weeks ago at that time I just started having some questions but if your Of . can score 25 points points there is no way you should get blown out of a game because your d let them score over 40 points. Was it just me or was any big pass play play made today by the titians that didnt have gunther covering , I couldnt watch all the game but seemed they always called his name on a long gain by there receivers, our special teams were t special today it was our hole team almost that gave up and wasnt ready to play and that does come back on the coach I would say if tohey have to let MM coach one more game see how they do if they are still flat MM has lost the team and even a warlock couldnt raise them from the dead with out a new coach LOL , so yes I am a convert I want him gone and I was a big supporter

[mission]

I've been saying this for years........ drain the damn swamp

[mmmdk]

Payton is an interesting comparable. The Saints were generally high powered for a few years and Drew Brees considered an elite QB, yet they've gone 7-9 the last two seasons. I was surprised to look back and see they won 7 games each of the last 2 years, because it feels like they lost a lot more than that.

Tomlin won the Superbowl in 2008 and went through a couple of 8-8 years with the Steelers in 2012 and 2013 before the Steelers rebounded a bit.

John Harbaugh won the Superbowl in 2012 and the Ravens were 8-8 the following year and 5-11 last year. The Ravens are above .500 this year but at 5-4 have a record that is in the same boat as the 16 or so teams within 1 game of .500.

Coughlin survived a number of disappointing seasons before he "retired".

My point is that coaches that have won the Superbowl and generally put together more winning seasons than not get a bit more leeway than most. The Packers are not a very good football team right now but I still think it would take more than 1 losing season for M3 to get canned. I imagine if things really go south that Capers might be let go but that M3 would get at least 1 more year.

I'm not defending McCarthy and am exasperated by the disconnect between how he feels about their preparation during the week vs their output on Sundays. I just think the odds are still good he will be given at least 1 more year to right the ship.

My goodness! You're probably closer to the facts [to come] than most of us.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

no more 'give him one more year', he has had enough of those already. I repeat from an earlier post, what are the odds of us finding another great quarterback after two hall of fame qbs in a row? Our window is not just closing, it is slamming shut very quickly. We need a fresh unbiased look at this team, somebody who can make quick concise decisions. This team is just not fun to watch anymore, even when they win.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I think that Sunday was the death knell for Capers. The defense is broke, again. I'd like to see him canned, but not holding my breath on that.

As others have said, how they have performed with the schedule they have had is indefensible (much like the offenses they have played against apparently) and given how the team has been the last 2 seasons, I agree that MM should be shown the door along with the whole staff after this season. No point really in firing him now as that never really works. I also think that it's time for TT to go as well. If the offense and defense are to change, so must the way those players are acquired and selected. Plus you cannot have a new HC brought in by a guy who's rumored to be leaving sooner rather than later choosing it.

The org is stale and there's nothing new and innovative on the field right now on either side of the ball.

[Clayish]

remember when, i think it was last year and the year before, and maybe the year before that

i said our window was closing, and every year we waste with fat mike in charge is a wasted a-rod year without another SB. nooooooo, everyone said, we still have many good years ahead

this team has been going in the wrong direction for years, not the right one

yeah, told you so

What about 2014 though? We were one of the best teams in football.

[pbmax]

Last year I noted it would not surprise me if Sean Payton was our next head coach after this season
I THINK I remember him getting a one year extension in NO.

Am I right ?

Also, goodbye Ted. They will lose Eliott Wolf soon if they don't give him the job. Let TT do what he does best; be a consultant behind closed doors.

Please explain the difference between Sean Payton and McCarthy? Because Payton has had much worse teams for much longer.

[Patler]

They ran thin at RB because the talent was at WR and elsewhere. They had Cobb and Monty to back that up and they don't wear out RBs like some teams. It was an eminently reasonable decision at the start of the season. Crockett and the other dude were not lighting it up.

You can't find a Pro Bowl TE every year. Patriots took 6 years and they took two because they weren't sure what they had. They drafted about 8 TEs before that trying to find one.

I agree.

Until they lost both Lacy and Starks the same week, I thought they were fine at RB. Lacy was running as well as he ever had, averaging 5.1/carry; and, while Starks hadn't shown much yet, he had limited opportunities, but was coming off his best year by far when he had nearly 1000 yards of total offense in a backup role. Their third back never plays anyway, is often inactive for games, so carrying one on PS seemed fine. It's hard to fault them for not having an experienced, starting caliber RB in the third RB spot on their roster, the way MM uses it.

As for TE, they had Finley in 2013. For as much as everyone wants to hate on Richard Rodgers, he wasn't an outrageous attempt at filling the role. He had spent time at WR in college, it just hasn't translated into the type of downfield threat at TE you hope to find. They've brought in a bunch of others who's best attributes were said to be as receivers, but it hasn't worked out. This year Cook should have had a good shot at filling the role, but of course has been injured. So what have they done to replace Finley?:

2013 - Still had Finley.
2014 - 3rd round pick for a receiving type TE.
2015 - 6th round pick for a receiving type TE.
2016 - signed Cook.

We shouldn't forget that RR's limitations didn't really show up until last year. As a rookie in 2014 he had 20 receptions and averaged over 11 yards, and had a 43 yard reception. I wish he had played last year at the weight he is at this year, he might have done more with all those opportunities he had.

[Iron Mike]

How's THIS for your new "Pittsburgh Tough" Head Coach???



Kevin Greene as LB coach???

[pbmax]

^ He has turned down close to a dozen jobs. In two Super Bowls, won one. Noted for having a terrible offense. Exactly what is the upside?

[Teamcheez1]

If Cowher hasn't come out of retirement yet for all of the other jobs that have been thrown at him, the Packers won't even register on his radar.

[pbmax]

This is the part of screaming for the coach's head I love. Fire the guy who has been the second best coach for a decade.

Then afterward find someone better.

Much prefer the Steelers approach. Force the current guy to get better. Hire new OC. Shakeup defense.