Official FIRE Mike McCarthy thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[call_me_ishmael]

LOL, I would be shocked if MM is fired this year. He'd need one more year of .500 play. Y'all know we had the best team in the league two years ago and it was only botched up by a PLAYER not following instructions, right?

[Carolina_Packer]

How was the running back situation such a blunder? Eddie Lacy + an experienced backup who had nearly 1000 yards in 2015. Lacy was running as well as he ever had until he was injured.

Where was this monumental blunder that some of you are talking about????

If Crockett had not gotten injured in pre-season, he very well may have been kept as the third back, which certainly would have been a welcome site when both Lacy and Starks went down and roughly the same time. Again, no free passes on injuries, but somehow they have to factor into a fan's judgement of the team's performance. Lose your top two running backs and not have a drop off in the run game? Um, OK. I don't say this in defense of the leadership, but just in defense of reality. At some positions, because of injuries, they are bringing a knife to a gun fight each week.

[woodbuck27]

Explain the 2014 season as being clear reason to fire all 3.

Clearly..... I'm making reference to the trend we've seen of failure.

MM's performance in our last game in the 2014 Season playoffs (blowing that game Vs Seattle) may well be a logical reason for a beginning of any festering in the Packer Locker Room.

[gbgary]

the capers thing is this (to me anyway)...it's blitzing when we're depleted in the secondary, it's not playing physical man-to-man (penalties be damned like sea), it's not jamming at the line, it's not hammering people (TEs, RBs, and WRs, within the 5 yrds of the line on pass plays) when running crossing routes...but that's just me.

[Patler]

The comparison with 2010 is valid for number of injuries, but probably not for impact. Losing your top 3 CBs after letting one of your top 3 from 2015 leave in FA is a pretty big hurdle. Losing Cook this year is similar to, but probably less impact than losing JF in 2010, as it seemed JF was going to be a featured aspect of the offense. But the offense had other options. Barnett in 2010 vs. Matthews now, more impact this year. They missed Barnett so much that they released him the off season following 2010. Morgan Burnett, Brad jones, Mike Neal all missed a lot of games in 2010, but were not yet (some would say "ever") impact players anyway. Losing Lacy this year has more impact than those three combined, especially with losing Starks for a fourth of the season.

[woodbuck27]

Perhaps, all things must come to an end. But only Thompson knows if McCarthy is spent.

NO !

Only TT can determine for Packer Nation that MM is spent.

I think that there is too much evidence that MM is too stubborn to simply step out.

[red]

so, it sounds like a lot of us agree that its time for TT to also go

when do you make that move?

you don't usually hear about GM's getting canned in the middle of the season, but our GM isn't doing a whole hell of a lot this time of year other then preparing for the draft.

and if you do make the switch this offseason, you aren't gonna want TT to draft for you on his way out the door, you would want your new guy to draft his players. but if you wait until the offseason to can TT and bring in a new GM, then he doesn't have as much scouting time

when do you make this move, if its even made

[Pugger]

I have been a big mm supporter all the way up till 2 weeks ago at that time I just started having some questions but if your Of . can score 25 points points there is no way you should get blown out of a game because your d let them score over 40 points. Was it just me or was any big pass play play made today by the titians that didnt have gunther covering , I couldnt watch all the game but seemed they always called his name on a long gain by there receivers, our special teams were t special today it was our hole team almost that gave up and wasnt ready to play and that does come back on the coach I would say if tohey have to let MM coach one more game see how they do if they are still flat MM has lost the team and even a warlock couldnt raise them from the dead with out a new coach LOL , so yes I am a convert I want him gone and I was a big supporter

Poor Gunter should still be learning his craft on the PS instead of trying to cover NFL #1 WRs. If I were an OC playing the Packers I'd go after Gunter, Brice, Rollins, Goodson and Hawkins relentlessly.

[Pugger]

Please explain the difference between Sean Payton and McCarthy? Because Payton has had much worse teams for much longer.

No kidding. Since the Saints' SB what have they done? In the 6 years since then they won the SB they have been under .500 half of those seasons.

[Freak Out]

Poor Gunter should still be learning his craft on the PS instead of trying to cover NFL #1 WRs. If I were an OC playing the Packers I'd go after Gunter, Brice, Rollins, Goodson and Hawkins relentlessly.

They don't? lol

[Pugger]

Obviously the rest of the football world agrees with you. Look at his accomplishments since the Packers mistakenly let him go.

2006 Asst HC Texans' regular season offense ranked 28th out of 32 NFL teams.[12]
2007 OC Texans, regular season offense improved to a ranking of 14.[13]
2008 HC Aggies - 4-8 record
2009 HC Aggies - 6-7 but they beat Texas Tech!
2010 Aggies HC Co-Big South Division Champs! 9-3!!!!
2011 Aggies HC 7–6, 4–5 in Big 12 play to finish in a tie for sixth place. They were invited to the Meineke Car Care Bowl of Texas where they defeated Northwestern 33–22!!
FIRED!? Completely unfair. Unrecognized genius.
2012 Dolphins OC 7-9!
2013 Dolphins OC 8-8!
2014 Dolphins OC FIRED AGAIN !?!?!?
2015 HIGH SCHOOL!! He replaced Keith Kenyon who resigned as football coach to be the Assistant Principal.

Listen, its easy to misunderstand all this and to look down on Mike Sherman's post Packers career. But lets face it, making two bowl games is almost exactly like making the NFL playoffs. He's a genius.

Don't confuse Tank with facts here.

[Pugger]

How was the running back situation such a blunder? Eddie Lacy + an experienced backup who had nearly 1000 yards in 2015. Lacy was running as well as he ever had until he was injured.

Where was this monumental blunder that some of you are talking about????

I guess the blunder was not being clairvoyant enough to know both RBs would get hurt simultaneously.

[Fritz]

Mikey-Mike keeps saying how much he likes these guys. I hope this isn't turning into a little league atmosphere.

Where's the ghost of Wayne Simmons?

I used to, as many of you know, complain about what seemed an inordinate number of Packer injuries. But this year, more and more teams seem to be suffering from as many injuries. Thus, I am left to think that the teams with the best GM's should do well, as drafting good depth is one of the qualities of a good GM. In this we always thought Ted was king - he could find that gem in the fifth round, that key backup as an undrafted FA.

Yet the Packers are floundering - 9 - 12 in their last 19 games, I think? Has Ted pooped the bed on depth, on star power, on both? Is the game passing him by?

Is it MM and his apparent Schottenheimeriness?

Is it Olivia Munn?

What the hell is it?

[Pugger]

so, it sounds like a lot of us agree that its time for TT to also go

when do you make that move?

you don't usually hear about GM's getting canned in the middle of the season, but our GM isn't doing a whole hell of a lot this time of year other then preparing for the draft.

and if you do make the switch this offseason, you aren't gonna want TT to draft for you on his way out the door, you would want your new guy to draft his players. but if you wait until the offseason to can TT and bring in a new GM, then he doesn't have as much scouting time

when do you make this move, if its even made

I'll be surprised - unless things get significantly worse - if any moves are made before this season is done.

[Pugger]

They don't? lol

I should have added the word "too" at the end of my post.