Official 2017 NFL draft thread

[Pugger]

that just adds up to another wasted year of a-rod

we need to find an immediate impact player at CB, imo waiting 2 or 3 years for a #1 corner to develop means wasting the last few good years a-rod has left

i guess he doesn't even need to be an impact cb, just someone who can line up on the other teams best WR and allow less then 150 yards

I hate wasting these years of Rodgers' prime too but it isn't like he's 37/38...

[Pugger]

I have no problem passing on Lang instead of making him one the five highest paid guards in the NFL.
Lacy has yet to prove he can avoid Golden Corral.

I could have gone either way on these guys, but they were not without quite a bit of risk for the price.

Yes, the only real hole right now IMO is OG. RB is a position where a rookie can make an immediate impact for us.

[gbgary]

I hate wasting these years of Rodgers' prime too but it isn't like he's 37/38...

more than his age i'm more worried about his attitude. it's great now, and he's hot to win, but how long will he stay that way without seeing progress? his all-in edict is not something to be taken lightly. he's got plenty of outside interests and if football ever falls down the priority list he'll be gone.

[Bretsky]

I do find it amusing all these average type players we're losing are leaving such gapping holes to fill. What was the number? 4 huge holes to fill? I'll give you Shields and a partial on Lang. Yes Lang is a Pro Bowler but he does play the easiest position to fill on the O-line. By rule, if the player is average, filling his position shouldn't be considered a big hole.

TJ LANG....AVERAGE ??

If that's our standard for average we should start getting some average players to defense cause that would result in some Super Bowl Action

Now that they are gone it seems so convenient to label losses as Marginal. And we'll miss Julius Peppers too; he provided some much needed pass rush at time. And we'll miss Shields (CB) and Lang (OG). And our ILB's already were plodders so no matter how you shake he LBing core to be above average we need an impact player there. Seems like a lot to ask seeing we'll hit some and miss some in the draft.

I'm not in the we should resign them all camp; I'm in the camp that is you let them walk use the cap space to get some help........perhaps on Defense.

But instead of doing so, we let guys walk, and use our loot of draft picks to replace them....and recycle the bottom of the roster, which was nothing to brag about lately. And we'll have cap space..and frontload.

Isn't it the proven recipe to stay good ?

[pbmax]

He's not saying Lang is average, He flatly states is going to be hard to find a CB to take Shields place or duplicate Pro Bowl performance at Guard again. But finding a guard is easier than a #1 corner. Just look at the salaries.

He is complaining that Red's list of gigantic gaping holes has grown to 4.

[pbmax]

Matt Miller @nfldraftscout 4m4 minutes ago
Low 4.5s are the times coming in on Dalvin Cook's pro day 40 time.

[BZnDallas]

He's not saying Lang is average, He flatly states is going to be hard to find a CB to take Shields place or duplicate Pro Bowl performance at Guard again. But finding a guard is easier than a #1 corner. Just look at the salaries.

He is complaining that Red's list of gigantic gaping holes has grown to 4.

Thanks PB. That's exactly what I was saying. Other than Lang and Shields our losses have been average at best. Yet to read that some folks think the sky is falling is humorous.

[red]

I do find it amusing all these average type players we're losing are leaving such gapping holes to fill. What was the number? 4 huge holes to fill? I'll give you Shields and a partial on Lang. Yes Lang is a Pro Bowler but he does play the easiest position to fill on the O-line. By rule, if the player is average, filling his position shouldn't be considered a big hole.

We need STARTERS at guard, and RB. And a #1 cb, and a #3 pass rusher to replace peppers

The guard we lost was one of the best in the NFL, the entire was way above average although most packer fans are now shitting on him that he's gone, and peppers was above average

Those are self inflicted wounds and hole that didn't need to be there. WE HAVE THE CAP SPACE

The only massive hole that we had no control over was #1 cab

If you think we can replace those 4 spots (with competent) players in this draft alone, you're delusional

[red]

Yes, the only real hole right now IMO is OG. RB is a position where a rookie can make an immediate impact for us.

Some teams have hit on some guys who are immediate players at RB, I don't think we've had that kind of luck over the years, and RB overall has a very high bust rate

[BZnDallas]

Some teams have hit on some guys who are immediate players at RB, I don't think we've had that kind of luck over the years, and RB overall has a very high bust rate

Lacy won OROY. Was that immediate enough? Too bad he ate his way off this team.

[Zool]

Lacy won OROY. Was that immediate enough? Too bad he ate his way off this team.

Also Franklin had some real signs of promise before breaking his neck.

[BZnDallas]

Also Franklin had some real signs of promise before breaking his neck.

True true. Damn the luck GB has had with losing young talent to neck injuries. Fin and Nick, Franklin and a promising WR from awhile back off the top of my head. Damn shame.

[ThunderDan]

True true. Damn the luck GB has had with losing young talent to neck injuries. Fin and Nick, Franklin and a promising WR from awhile back off the top of my head. Damn shame.

Murphy.

[bobblehead]

We need STARTERS at guard, and RB. And a #1 cb, and a #3 pass rusher to replace peppers

The guard we lost was one of the best in the NFL, the entire was way above average although most packer fans are now shitting on him that he's gone, and peppers was above average

Those are self inflicted wounds and hole that didn't need to be there. WE HAVE THE CAP SPACE

The only massive hole that we had no control over was #1 cab

If you think we can replace those 4 spots (with competent) players in this draft alone, you're delusional

Lang likely will be replaced by someone on the roster right now. I think they could maneuver spriggs around, it might be patrick, or maybe even Barclay can be a functional guard if he focuses on just that.

Montgomery was a better RB than Lacy last year. We need to adjust the offense so instead of asking him to pass block we use him as an outlet if teams blitz. And again, its a deep RB draft.

Peppers will hurt an already hurting D. I think losing hyde hurts. Again, we hope some guys step up like Fackrell and Elliiot. We hope we draft a CB in a deep draft to replace hyde. The big deal is that we don't have a true #1 CB. Doubtful we draft a shields ready player. That means we need a healthy Clay, and draft a good edge rusher in the 1st so we can compensate for our lack of 1 elite CB.

[pbmax]

If you think we can replace those 4 spots (with competent) players in this draft alone, you're delusional

That's what everyone was thinking when Sitton left.

The current rosters has Murphy, Spriggs, Patrick and possibly Bulaga moving to play LG.

OLB for Peppers has Fuckdoggle and Holy Fackrell after a year of free weights and horse steroids.

CB does have a hole because while I still like the 3 youngsters, none will be Shields this year. I do think that between House/Gunter and Randall/Rollins you might get a tandem as good as Shields/Hayward-Randall-Rollins were in 2015.

The RB will be a backup to the starter Monty. That by definition cannot be a hole nor can it be a spot where the starter needs to be replaced.