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  • Ted On Chopping Block?!

    Poll question is about who is likelier to return after this season, not who you would prefer to see pitched over the side.



    Jason La Canfora has the team doing an internal review and the anonymous source(s), who would not be quoted, say Ted is under as much review as M3, if not more. They also take issue with recent drafts, odd, because he has had two good ones in a row. This, being an Executive Committee, I take to mean he hasn't found a Jordy replacement.

    In fact, the sources mumbling behind the hedges say they don't think Aaron Rodgers would support a change in Head Coach. They also seem to believe they can force staff changes on McCarthy. This is either the Steelers or the Browns mode of operations and trust me, you can't know the wisdom of the result until a decade is past and either Bill Cowher or Bob Slowik is your Head Coach.

    So who do you believe, JLC and his hedge muse or Mike Florio and his Talmudic parsing of Rodgers language?
    10
    Ted Thompson
    0%
    6
    Mike McCarthy
    0%
    4

    The poll is expired.

    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

  • #2
    Originally posted by pbmax
    Poll question is about who is likelier to return after this season, not who you would prefer to see pitched over the side.



    Jason La Canfora has the team doing an internal review and the anonymous source(s), who would not be quoted, say Ted is under as much review as M3, if not more. They also take issue with recent drafts, odd, because he has had two good ones in a row. This, being an Executive Committee, I take to mean he hasn't found a Jordy replacement.

    In fact, the sources mumbling behind the hedges say they don't think Aaron Rodgers would support a change in Head Coach. They also seem to believe they can force staff changes on McCarthy. This is either the Steelers or the Browns mode of operations and trust me, you can't know the wisdom of the result until a decade is past and either Bill Cowher or Bob Slowik is your Head Coach.

    So who do you believe, JLC and his hedge muse or Mike Florio and his Talmudic parsing of Rodgers language?
    Can we really say he's had 2 good drafts in a row? I think it's too early. Some promise, but a lot of inconsistency. What player(s) from the last 2 drafts look like impact players?

    If a change is to be made, I favor hiring a new GM and letting him pick his coach over Thompson firing McCarthy. And above all else, don't let the QB decide who the coach will be.

    TT once traded an aging Brett Favre in part because he had a talented young QB waiting in the wings. Could Mark Murphy now make the same kind of decision with the GM job?
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #3
      Post # 18,000

      I voted Thompson because I don't think he'll fire McCarthy. But if Thompson is gone, I think McCarthy may well be gone also.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
        Post # 18,000

        I voted Thompson because I don't think he'll fire McCarthy. But if Thompson is gone, I think McCarthy may well be gone also.
        That is one problem with Eliot Wolf hire. Unless he has outside option, does he hold out for total control in his first job as GM?
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
          Can we really say he's had 2 good drafts in a row? I think it's too early. Some promise, but a lot of inconsistency. What player(s) from the last 2 drafts look like impact players?

          If a change is to be made, I favor hiring a new GM and letting him pick his coach over Thompson firing McCarthy. And above all else, don't let the QB decide who the coach will be.

          TT once traded an aging Brett Favre in part because he had a talented young QB waiting in the wings. Could Mark Murphy now make the same kind of decision with the GM job?
          I like both tackles from this draft. Impact players? Springs will be one at Left Tackle. I like Davis as well. Blake Martinez is the answer at ILB that we have been asking for 8 years. Until we lost all the CBs, he was the piece that made the D a top ten unit. He had an impact even if his top end talent level isn't All-Pro. And I think Clark will start and be good as nose tackle. That was a need pick in an emergency situation (Raji retires rather than resign) but he does he look like he can anchor, he also seems to have some pass rush.

          I like both Randall and Rollins. Maybe not as much as Casey Hayward this season, but I think they will both be very good, especially Randall. That is your shutdown corner of the future and if its not him it might be Gunter who was a huge find. Montgomery might be the only skill position player who will be an impact player besides future Hundley who is your 3rd Pro Bowl QB in a row. Ryan and Ripper are good enough to start for a Super Bowl team even if neither plays all three downs.

          Now part of the problem being addressed here is that Ted had some holes develop during his 2011-12-13 downturn. He got some good players (esp. 12) but too many of those guys weren't even backup quality.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #6
            Silverstein doesn't agree. https://t.co/2zpk9scghB
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              I like both tackles from this draft. Impact players? Springs will be one at Left Tackle.
              That's what I thought until they gave Bakh left Tackle money. Will they move him inside? He would become an awfully expensive Guard. Which brings us to a Thompson issue. Has he overpaid to keep guys like Cobb and Bakh here?
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #8
                Thompson damn well better be under fire. He has done a shitty job of maximizing the Packers team. We have had - and still have - the world's greatest QB, and Ted has absolutely NOT built a good supporting cast around him. It's a damn shame that they have frittered away so many of Rodgers' great years with good, but not great success. I think Aaron Rodgers has 5, maybe as much as 7 or 8 more excellent years. Let's get rid of Ted and Mike both and make the most of that remaining time.

                I'm not real thrilled about the idea of Elliot Wolf either. I'm afraid he (or anybody else the Murphy and Packer power structure might like) would be way too similar to Thompson.

                I absolutely hate using the word "conservative" to describe hyper-cautious behavior in sports and otherwise, but whatever you call it, Ted - and probably Murphy and whoever pulls his strings all are afflicted with that mindset.

                To answer the poll: Both SHOULD be gone; Neither WILL be gone.
                What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  That's what I thought until they gave Bakh left Tackle money. Will they move him inside? He would become an awfully expensive Guard. Which brings us to a Thompson issue. Has he overpaid to keep guys like Cobb and Bakh here?
                  Cobb yes, but that is obvious only in retrospect.

                  Bach has a chronic injury and is not prototypical size for a Left Tackle. I could see a short career there. I could also see him playing RT as well as Bulaga. So Spriggs will supplant him before that deal is done. Bach is not overpaid for the season he is having, but he needs to stay healthy. You could read Bach's contract as a vote of no confidence in Spriggs, but he was not going to be ready his first year no matter the body in front of him.

                  Springs needs to get stronger and learn to deal with speed. Not unusual.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #10
                    Elliott Wolf is staging a coup?
                    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                    • #11
                      Elliott Wolf is the son of Ron Wolf and the underling of Ted Thompson. In terms of free agency, I wonder who he would emulate more.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #12
                        This is a "Do you still beat your wife?" poll. How about a poll asking whether you prefer a penis in your mouth or anus?

                        I'll not participate in this smearing of our great leaders.

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                        • #13
                          Unless the team continues to play like garbage the rest of the way nobody is going anywhere. If the team really goes to hell between now and January they both could be given pink slips.

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                          • #14
                            The more fans clamor for Eliot Wolf the more I fear the pick. Yes, a guy has to get his first chance somewhere, but what exactly are his qualifications beside the name?

                            The best thing I know about him is that Thomspon seems to like him.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                              Thompson damn well better be under fire. He has done a shitty job of maximizing the Packers team. We have had - and still have - the world's greatest QB, and Ted has absolutely NOT built a good supporting cast around him. It's a damn shame that they have frittered away so many of Rodgers' great years with good, but not great success. I think Aaron Rodgers has 5, maybe as much as 7 or 8 more excellent years. Let's get rid of Ted and Mike both and make the most of that remaining time.

                              I'm not real thrilled about the idea of Elliot Wolf either. I'm afraid he (or anybody else the Murphy and Packer power structure might like) would be way too similar to Thompson.

                              I absolutely hate using the word "conservative" to describe hyper-cautious behavior in sports and otherwise, but whatever you call it, Ted - and probably Murphy and whoever pulls his strings all are afflicted with that mindset.

                              To answer the poll: Both SHOULD be gone; Neither WILL be gone.
                              Well said, Tex.

                              The Polar Bear should've gotten the Louis XVI treatment a long fuckin' time ago, but last and this seasons are definite proofs that Thompson is the mother of incompetence.

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