More Banjo: Week 12 @ Philly

[pbmax]

It's called taking what the defense gives you.

It is, but notice that M3 has now really moved in the direction of running routes to put coverage away from someone else. Its not complete, but he has a package he is willing to call with a bunch of guys. Many of these are screens, but OK. That helps when the running game is not percolating.

So there is a reason and method to springing these guys open early. It was also partly a choice of Philly, they usually had one corner backed off when Packers WR were wide.

They also attacked the middle of the field with slants with Adams and inside routes with Cook. Cook only had 2 or 3 targets, but he forced defenders to be in the middle with him.

By the time the Eagles would have adjusted, the Packers discovered they could pass block these guys and take some deep shots against the one on one coverage. Spriggs lost the handle on Cox a couple times, but the kid battles and recovers. He's like the anti-Marshmallow. I still don't think this offense can operate like NE or old school Montana San Fran and nickel and dime their way to a TD.

But you don't have to do it 100% of the time if you can go deep.

It all fits together well in a game like this. The only thing I didn't see were crossing routes.

[Zool]

Does anyone else worry about Cook's hands? Also, he runs like Herman Munster. How on earth is he so fast?

[pbmax]

Does anyone else worry about Cook's hands? Also, he runs like Herman Munster. How on earth is he so fast?

He does have those bobble TE hands. But it somehow seems to work. He is like the unholy union of Bubba Franks and Finley. Gets the blocking from Finley though.

[pbmax]

Just watched the extended highlights on NFL.com

They are at the top of this article http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...gn=Twitter_atn

Mike Daniels was double teamed or chipped on each pass rush I saw. There is a reason the other three rushers were getting there first.

Kenny Clark on the goal like not only got penetration and nearly got Wentz, but he blew up the Center AND Guard. It was a helluva take off.

Fletcher Cox put Spriggs on skates on the 50 yard completion to Adams. But Spriggs held on and Cox never got loose. Spriggs did this mainly by committing one of the greatest non-called holds ever. This kid plays like a vet!

I lied earlier, Packers ran at least on crossing route. The pass that deflected off Cook was a three man cross. Jordy went through first but Randall was late as his guy was holding him on a 5 yard chuck for the entire 5 yards. Cook came open late but I think the pass was either behind him or it was to Cobb, who did shake the guy eventually.

[pbmax]

The Eagles were the #1 Defense in the NFL at Football Outsiders. And the Packers just ran them over on the road. That is a big deal.

The Eagles Offense was ranked #21. They held them to 13 on the road. That's how it should be. There were no monster ruptures like the past 4 games. Eagles had no gains over 24 and only 4 over 20 yards for the game (Packers had 5 including the 50 yarder).

So its good, but the D needs to be tighter. And the pass rush must get consistent.

[Maxie the Taxi]

He does have those bobble TE hands. But it somehow seems to work. He is like the unholy union of Bubba Franks and Finley. Gets the blocking from Finley though.

I think it's instructive that the Pack has two "move" TE's on its practice squad. Cook's future in GB is far from settled.

[pbmax]

I think it's instructive that the Pack has two "move" TE's on its practice squad. Cook's future in GB is far from settled.

I like what I have seen from him on his routes. But its been pretty limited so far. Part of that is obviously the foot and ankle problems.

[Maxie the Taxi]

The Eagles were the #1 Defense in the NFL at Football Outsiders. And the Packers just ran them over on the road. That is a big deal.

The Eagles Offense was ranked #21. They held them to 13 on the road. That's how it should be. There were no monster ruptures like the past 4 games. Eagles had no gains over 24 and only 4 over 20 yards for the game (Packers had 5 including the 50 yarder).

So its good, but the D needs to be tighter. And the pass rush must get consistent.

I didn't and won't watch the game again because it might cause me to change my mind, but my impression is that when Dom rushed five or more we had potential to disrupt the rookie QB. Conclusion: Our front "four" just isn't good enough to disrupt consistently, even against a patchwork O-line like the Iggles. So, Dom has to blitz to apply disruptive pressure. The problem is Clay is no longer a Kahlil Mack. Peppers is getting by on vet saavy and Perry has his moments.

I agree our pass rush MUST get better, but what's the answer? If Dom doesn't come up with one a veteran QB will have his way with this defense.

[gbgary]

Rodgers mentioned this in on field interview. After injury, he went pistol and shotgun more than under center. Some of the best plays they had in first half were under center. Hope he can get back under there.

been saying for years they need to do more from under center. it makes the d hesitate for a second and our plays aren't so predictable.

[gbgary]

I didn't and won't watch the game again because it might cause me to change my mind, but my impression is that when Dom rushed five or more we had potential to disrupt the rookie QB. Conclusion: Our front "four" just isn't good enough to disrupt consistently, even against a patchwork O-line like the Iggles. So, Dom has to blitz to apply disruptive pressure. The problem is Clay is no longer a Kahlil Mack. Peppers is getting by on vet saavy and Perry has his moments.

I agree our pass rush MUST get better, but what's the answer? If Dom doesn't come up with one a veteran QB will have his way with this defense.

our d was still pretty bad. wentz was hitting wide open guys. still say we need to blitz less, and play bump and run, with our secondary so weak. dallas doesn't blitz. they keep their guys in coverage and play physical. it's paid off for them and their secondary may be worse off than ours.

[Carolina_Packer]

I didn't and won't watch the game again because it might cause me to change my mind, but my impression is that when Dom rushed five or more we had potential to disrupt the rookie QB. Conclusion: Our front "four" just isn't good enough to disrupt consistently, even against a patchwork O-line like the Iggles. So, Dom has to blitz to apply disruptive pressure. The problem is Clay is no longer a Kahlil Mack. Peppers is getting by on vet saavy and Perry has his moments.

I agree our pass rush MUST get better, but what's the answer? If Dom doesn't come up with one a veteran QB will have his way with this defense.

On a very basic level, I think it begins with stopping the run. That allows more manageable down and distance for the defense, and ensures the likelihood that the other team is going to pass, which means pass rush. There's the rub. Can they generate enough pass rush without exposing the inexperience or lack of healthy talent at corner? I think we've seen what happens when the pass rush does not cause the QB to move off of his mark.

[Joemailman]

Mike Daniels getting double-teamed on pass plays. One more reason to keep Matthews inside. He might be able to exploit the double-teams and find a lane up the middle.

[beveaux1]

We do not play very well in zone coverage. Capers has had to use it because of the health of his secondary and as a hedge to limit the long completions. I don't know if our poor zone coverage is a result of bad play from our ILBs or if it's the safety or CB play. Perhaps PB has some insights he would like to share.

I do know that receivers seem to have no problem finding the holes in our zones, no matter their experience level. I also agree with Maxie that we apply no pressure without blitzing. The good news is that the only veteran QBs we'll face in the coming weeks are Bradford, Wilson, and Stafford, and 2 of them have pretty poor offensive personnel.

[Smidgeon]

He's becoming a top receiver. Has quickness and suddenness and can beat man.

And his route running is becoming liquid smooth too. Must've really been injured last year. Badly.

[gbgary]

Mike Daniels getting double-teamed on pass plays. One more reason to keep Matthews inside. He might be able to exploit the double-teams and find a lane up the middle.

i was was hoping they'd leave cm3 in the middle from the get-go. that's where he should end his career. on passing downs he can stay in there and rush from o/s if they want him to. to me it's the natural progression of things.