Some random thoughts about the team moving forward

[esoxx]

Bring black McKenzie!!

[Patler]

He's so rarely in position to break up a pass. My issue with him is lack of big plays. He's serviceable, but you want to do better than him.

I suspect he is better than many players who fill similar roles on other teams.

[Tony Oday]

What big name RB will we disappointed we don't get? AP? Jamaal Charles?

[RashanGary]

He's so rarely in position to break up a pass. My issue with him is lack of big plays. He's serviceable, but you want to do better than him.

He has 18 passes defended so far. Will Blackmon was with us for something like 4 years with zero if I recall correctly.

[Zool]

He has 18 passes defended so far. Will Blackmon was with us for something like 4 years with zero if I recall correctly.

Must be a perception thing for me. I'm tired of watching the Packers D give up 9 on 3rd and 8. A large majority of the time it's to a TE, and that's usually the guy covered by Hyde. I want to start seeing them get more negative plays on 3rd down.

[StPaulPackFan]

Must be a perception thing for me. I'm tired of watching the Packers D give up 9 on 3rd and 8. A large majority of the time it's to a TE, and that's usually the guy covered by Hyde. I want to start seeing them get more negative plays on 3rd down.

I'm right there with you. Most of the time he just seems a step too late to break up a pass or get a turnover. It's definitely better than being completely out of position. But it just feels like the position could be upgraded, especially with how many teams utilize TE's.

[ThunderDan]

I'm right there with you. Most of the time he just seems a step too late to break up a pass or get a turnover. It's definitely better than being completely out of position. But it just feels like the position could be upgraded, especially with how many teams utilize TE's.

I think he is supposed to be the dime CB at best and for a part of the season he was #2.

He is supposed to be that 5th CB/safety and special teams player. Injuries have killed the team this year.

[Patler]

I think he is supposed to be the dime CB at best and for a part of the season he was #2.

He is supposed to be that 5th CB/safety and special teams player. Injuries have killed the team this year.

Yup. When you peel away 2 or 3 layers from the top of the depth chart like the Packers did at CB for the mid part of the season, #s 4,5 and 6 don't look so good. There are reasons those guys don't have starting positions in the league. I suppose the Packers could have paid House and Hayward the last two years, and had starting calibre players 4 and 5 layers deep at CB, but from a salary cap perspective it doesn't make a lot of sense.

I still think the Packers had exceptional depth at CB this year, not because all had top level starting ability, but because the players at the lower levels of the depth chart were a heck of a lot better than what most teams have at #4, 5 or 6.

[Bretsky]

What big name RB will we disappointed we don't get? AP? Jamaal Charles?

Looking Back getting Forte for what the Jets signed him for would have been a great move

If TT's our GM I think we all understand we won't get a big name

[gbgary]

Looking Back getting Forte for what the Jets signed him for would have been a great move

If TT's our GM I think we all understand we won't get a big name

smh

[smuggler]

Cobb is so overpaid.

[Pugger]

Yup. When you peel away 2 or 3 layers from the top of the depth chart like the Packers did at CB for the mid part of the season, #s 4,5 and 6 don't look so good. There are reasons those guys don't have starting positions in the league. I suppose the Packers could have paid House and Hayward the last two years, and had starting calibre players 4 and 5 layers deep at CB, but from a salary cap perspective it doesn't make a lot of sense.

I still think the Packers had exceptional depth at CB this year, not because all had top level starting ability, but because the players at the lower levels of the depth chart were a heck of a lot better than what most teams have at #4, 5 or 6.

Agreed. No team has starting caliber talent that deep at any position. Had Sheilds not been lost for the season and Randall hurt for long stretches (along with Rollins missing a couple of games) nobody here would be talking about House or Hayward.

[Pugger]

Looking Back getting Forte for what the Jets signed him for would have been a great move

If TT's our GM I think we all understand we won't get a big name

I don't know if a RB with a 3.7 average per carry would have been the answer to our running game. I do think it was a mistake to go into the season with only Lacy and Starks at HB. Losing Crockett didn't help. Let's hope Micheal will make a difference going forward.

[Pugger]

Cobb is so overpaid.

Would Cobb had been paid like this by another team when he was about to be a FA in 2015? Nobody balked back when he signed that contract. I think he is playing pretty well right now.

[Joemailman]

Would Cobb had been paid like this by another team when he was about to be a FA in 2015? Nobody balked back when he signed that contract. I think he is playing pretty well right now.

Actually I recall there was some debate as to whether top money should be paid to a slot receiver. In terms of average salary, Cobb is 15th among WR's. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/...wide-receiver/ At the time of the signing, his pay was probably high than 15th. Cobb is currently 50th in the NFL in receiving yards. 3rd on the team. I think a strong argument can be made that he's a good, but overpaid player.