Some random thoughts about the team moving forward

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i guess i'll throw it in here, why not

the NFL is gonna tell teams on wednesday that the cap will be going up between 8-10 million PER YEAR

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Actually I recall there was some debate as to whether top money should be paid to a slot receiver. In terms of average salary, Cobb is 15th among WR's. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/...wide-receiver/ At the time of the signing, his pay was probably high than 15th. Cobb is currently 50th in the NFL in receiving yards. 3rd on the team. I think a strong argument can be made that he's a good, but overpaid player.

yes, there was a lot of debate about that

and last year proved that he's nothing more then a slot receiver, he can't step into a #1 role if need be. and as the 15th highest paid WR in the game, he is overpaid

hell, he makes more money then jordy

[RashanGary]

Spriggs really does look like a player. Lang is better now, but Spriggs is cheap. This might be Langs swan song. Also, Tretter should be resigned and I think could play guard too.

Bahk/Taylor/Lindsley/Tretter/Bulaga
Spriggs
Murphy
Barclay (if you can't find someone)
Draft pick(s)
Off the bench. We have a good, young line.

Glad to see Lowry play well. Bodes well for the near future. Clark too. While not dominate by any stretch, he's a just turned 21 year old mid season NT and does hold up in there for being a kid still. I'll bet he makes massive gains into years 2 and 3. The money situation is so good. Could easily see us keeping Perry and Jones. I like our depth going forward.

Shields career probably over. Corner might have a hole going forward.

[ThunderDan]

Shields career probably over. Corner might have a hole going forward.

I agree with this. But that should free 10 million to sign a top flight CB.

[RashanGary]

Maybe we'd luck out and a corner would fall to us in the draft. Corner/Rb/wr/OL just like that.

[Smidgeon]

Maybe we'd luck out and a corner would fall to us in the draft. Corner/Rb/wr/OL just like that.

WR/Corner/RB please

[Fritz]

Funny, just a few weeks ago we were ready to blow the whole thing up. Now we're optimistic.

This is why it's good that fans don't get to run teams.

I think though this team needs more than just good or solid players. Ted needs to hit on a couple superstars soon, as someone else said earlier.

Like a superstar wide receiver, and/or a tight end. Or another OLB who can wreak havoc.

[Patler]

It is disappointing that Fackrell was injured when he was. He had been getting a little playing time and had made a few plays, a couple sacks, a forced fumble, tackle for loss, batted pass, etc. He made some mistakes, and needs to build strength, but he also made some plays. With Matthews problems most of the year, now Perry out, I would have liked to see Fackrell play some more.

[SkinBasket]

I understand the whole depth argument at DB, but I'm in Zool's boat. More often than not, these intermediate drive extending 3rd down conversions seem to be completed 3 or 4 steps in front of 33. Yeah, you can argue that he's down the depth chart, that we've had injuries, blah blah blah. But if the fucking fucker can't cover when he IS in the game, then why the fuck do you keep him on the team? Is he good at folding towels? Yeah, he's like Bush, who people seemed to think was a ST ace years after he proved he had lost that skill, as has Hyde. When you got junk, you got junk, and 33 is junk.

On a related note, wasn't that 33 chugging downfield about 20 yards behind his guy on Randall's INT?

[texaspackerbacker]

It is disappointing that Fackrell was injured when he was. He had been getting a little playing time and had made a few plays, a couple sacks, a forced fumble, tackle for loss, batted pass, etc. He made some mistakes, and needs to build strength, but he also made some plays. With Matthews problems most of the year, now Perry out, I would have liked to see Fackrell play some more.

True about Fackrell, but I guess all of that is what it took for them FINALLY to get Jayrone Elliot in the game - who I like better than any of them except, of course a 100% healthy Matthews.

[Patler]

Re Hyde and GB's other DBs:

By and large, teams complete nearly 2 of every 3 passes thrown, even higher in the short and intermediate distances. Then, too, of the few incomplete passes that there are around the league, some are caused by a good pass rush resulting in a hurried, inaccurate throw. Yet, so many fans seem appalled when a starting GB defensive back allows even one completion, let alone a backup getting beaten a couple times. That's just the way it is in the NFL today. Maybe Hyde "can't cover" as well as we want him too, but he is there because there are a lot in the league who are even worse, I suspect. Do you really think there are great cover guys looking for jobs, even in the off season?

We complain about Barclay, and sure, we want someone better than him coming in when at least two ahead of him are injured. But the league is full of guys like Marshall Newhouse who are starters for playoff caliber teams. I'll take Barcaly over Newhouse just because I like his never give up attitude.

Kind of like baseball. We want all guys who can hit .320, but the league is full of guys who hit .250 only in their very best years, and you might have to play a bunch of guys like that.

[Patler]

True about Fackrell, but I guess all of that is what it took for them FINALLY to get Jayrone Elliot in the game - who I like better than any of them except, of course a 100% healthy Matthews.

It was good to see Elliot play again. I wonder why we saw so little of him early this year?

[Fritz]

So what's the word on Fackrell? Is he done for the year or something? I only heard he was still out with a hamstring problem.

[Patler]

So what's the word on Fackrell? Is he done for the year or something? I only heard he was still out with a hamstring problem.

...and it seems like he injured it on the plane ride home from Washington. I don't remember anything during the game, but he was on the injury report to start the next week.

[RashanGary]

I really like your posts, Patler. It's so easy to nitpick when something goes wrong. No team is perfect.. The best team of the last decade has won 1 Super Bowl. The patriots. They've won a lot of games. They've let good high priced vets go. They've failed in drafts. They give up a lot of yards passing and rushing. Brady lost a lot of big games. If you wanted, you could have literally endless complaints. And you'd be right. It's true. They're imperfect and fall short almost every year.

The Packers are the winningest team in the NFC and people complain about every little thing as if they could do better or the next random coach/gm/#6cb is going to be so much better. It really is a blind spot for fans I think. We can get up and be unhappy and miserable about every little imperfection. That's easy. Seeing a more whole picture, and really using mind energy, that's hard. That's why people don't do it. It's hard.