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Just make sure you stick around for a couple of years when the tides turn my friend, and they will turn oh yes they will turn. You may be riding high now so you go out and look to rub it in but your floundering mediocrity is waiting for you around the corner.Originally posted by BEARMANAll I got to say is your ROOKS better bring their "A" game, cos if they dont, DA BEARS will be dinning on "cheese" Sunday !
GO BEARS !Chris: Dad, what's the blow-hole for?
Peter: I'll tell you what it's not for, son. And when I do, you'll understand why I can never go back to Sea World.
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The sad part is we are starting two rookies at Guard and it is a better tandem than we had last year. We have Ahman Green who is a good RB. Injury aside, he is good and I think can do two things that the other Rbs in pre-season can't. Green can get to the corner on sweeps and has better burts when a hole opens. Don't discount him because of last year, he will be ok. This same Packer team with just DD as a receiving threat played the Bears tough. GB was down to 1 WR and herron was our starting RB and yet the Bears had a hard time stopping the Packer offense.
Gb now has two legitimate WRs, Franks is 100%, Green will bebetter than when he started lastyear, and as stated before the two rookie guards are better thena the one we started last year. A new blocking scheme that the Bears have not faced is also a + for GB. Nobody in the Division uses it and except for Atlanta & Denver nobody sees it.
The first half od the game wil be slow while teams feel out their offenses. The team that wins the TO battle will win it and Ithink Gb will come out strong in the second half to beat the Bears.
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I think the WR corps are pretty comparable, with a slight nod to GB.
I think CHI has a better OL & D, which (along with players with NFL experience) makes them the favorites on Sunday.
I don't think CHI has the personnel to carry themselves very deep into the playoffs, and I have doubts about whether they will carry last season's success into this year. They have some disgruntled people, and I've seen them go from first to worst before. We'll see.
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GB is definitely better at WR. The Bears don't have a single guy who is a complete, quality starter. We have one for sure, and maybe two.
Moose was a player once, but is rumored to be washed up. DD is clearly better.
Bradley was a rookie dynamo last year---just like Jennings this year---but then Bradley blew out a knee. Coming off this serious injury, he is a question mark. I'd take Jennings over him at this point any day of the week.
Gage=Fergie.
Currie & Berrain can't seem to stay healthy. A WR does a fat lot of good for your team if he is standing on the sideline in street clothes. I'll take a healthy Ruvell Martin over this two-man M.A.S.H. unit.
Davis is raw and inexperienced and he's played less WR than Will Blackmon. Blackmon and/or Charles Woodson as emergency WRs are at least as dependable as this guy.
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Ok, if this is the worst WR, corp in the NFL what does that make your defense and secondary? To get to the playoffs you must first win in the regular season. Today was a start. And once again crow is served to the misinformed Packer fan.Originally posted by ahahaThis has to be the worst receiving corp in the NFL. Although, San Francisco fans might argue with me on this one. No matter how good you're defense is, you still need some play-makers on offense if you're going to go deep in the play-offs.
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Muhammad was the better WR today. Got open more often and more catches.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersDriver is a better receiver the Muhammad.
Bradley has good potential. I know we all like Jennings, but he has to prove it in a regular season game. Is Bradley fully healthy though? I know he had an injury, but I haven't heard if he's 100%.
The rest of the wideouts are a wash, but Green Bay has a big edge at the TE position.
Crow served again.
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ok but you do understand the packers secondary did play terribly against muhammad while driver was doing it against the vaunted bears defense...Originally posted by DabaddestbearMuhammad was the better WR today. Got open more often and more catches.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersDriver is a better receiver the Muhammad.
Bradley has good potential. I know we all like Jennings, but he has to prove it in a regular season game. Is Bradley fully healthy though? I know he had an injury, but I haven't heard if he's 100%.
The rest of the wideouts are a wash, but Green Bay has a big edge at the TE position.
Crow served again.Formerly known as nbarnett56
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Elite status and Woodson should never be put in the same sentence. Both Starting QB's got torched today. What was that about always beng in the game? When did you feel they were still in the game?Originally posted by OS PADriver > Muhammed - Driver is more proven to be a #1
Jennings > Bradley - Better hands, more home run potential, YAC
Ferguson < Gage - If this were a competition of who could be covered the most, Fergy would win.
Martin > Berrian - Ruvell has the hands, and is much more of a threat in the redzone, strictly speaking from a 4th reciever standpoint Ruvell is 10X better
??? < Currie - Currie wins by default seeing as we don't have a fifth option.
Franks >> Clark - Better Hands, more of a target
Martin/Lee > Gilmore/Reid - More "potential" to be a threat
Green = Jones/Benson
Gado/Herron << Jones/Benson/Peterson
Henderson >>>> McKie
OL - Bears
WR's - Packers
TE's - Packers
RB's - Bears
QB - Packers
Packers + 3
Bears + 2
The OL is the thing that matters. A shoddy O-line can make Brett look like Rex, just the same way the lack of a pass rush can make Rex look like a hall of famer.
With this said I still think we win this one. Hopefully Woodson will prove his elite status on Sunday and force Grossman to throw to his 3rd and 4th checks. With Grossman dumping it off to his back-ups it gives our LB's the chance to lay some wood, and also gives our D-line time to get to him. hopefully our Safeties can prove their worth too.
All in all, it'll be a fun game to see how our starters hold up throughout 4 quarters. The good thing about playing the Bears is your team is never out of the game.
Go Pack.
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The run was contained and you guys had no shot. By the way the Bears put up more points than Seattle, Carolina, and soon the Colts. The Colts will lose to the Giants.Originally posted by BretskyOriginally posted by BEARMANYou aint asking for much are you ? LOL
GO BEARS !
I already know you're starting Grossman; so low scoring and turnovers. Not that much really.
It's not like we're playing Carolina or the Colts or Seattle. We're playing a team with a piss poor passing offense and a great defense. So contain the run and you've got a shot.
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Berrian got an TD and Martin got----hold on did he even get a catch?..lolOriginally posted by the_idle_threatGB is definitely better at WR. The Bears don't have a single guy who is a complete, quality starter. We have one for sure, and maybe two.
Moose was a player once, but is rumored to be washed up. DD is clearly better.
Bradley was a rookie dynamo last year---just like Jennings this year---but then Bradley blew out a knee. Coming off this serious injury, he is a question mark. I'd take Jennings over him at this point any day of the week.
Gage=Fergie.
Currie & Berrain can't seem to stay healthy. A WR does a fat lot of good for your team if he is standing on the sideline in street clothes. I'll take a healthy Ruvell Martin over this two-man M.A.S.H. unit.
Davis is raw and inexperienced and he's played less WR than Will Blackmon. Blackmon and/or Charles Woodson as emergency WRs are at least as dependable as this guy.
Moose got it done and beat Harris consistantly.
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look you guys had a good win but don't get too cocky... especially after you played against a bad green bay defense... what happens if moose gets hurt, then your receiving corps is in trouble?Originally posted by DabaddestbearThe run was contained and you guys had no shot. By the way the Bears put up more points than Seattle, Carolina, and soon the Colts. The Colts will lose to the Giants.Originally posted by BretskyOriginally posted by BEARMANYou aint asking for much are you ? LOL
GO BEARS !
I already know you're starting Grossman; so low scoring and turnovers. Not that much really.
It's not like we're playing Carolina or the Colts or Seattle. We're playing a team with a piss poor passing offense and a great defense. So contain the run and you've got a shot.
BFormerly known as nbarnett56
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My points stand.Originally posted by DabaddestbearBerrian got an TD and Martin got----hold on did he even get a catch?..lolOriginally posted by the_idle_threatGB is definitely better at WR. The Bears don't have a single guy who is a complete, quality starter. We have one for sure, and maybe two.
Moose was a player once, but is rumored to be washed up. DD is clearly better.
Bradley was a rookie dynamo last year---just like Jennings this year---but then Bradley blew out a knee. Coming off this serious injury, he is a question mark. I'd take Jennings over him at this point any day of the week.
Gage=Fergie.
Currie & Berrain can't seem to stay healthy. A WR does a fat lot of good for your team if he is standing on the sideline in street clothes. I'll take a healthy Ruvell Martin over this two-man M.A.S.H. unit.
Davis is raw and inexperienced and he's played less WR than Will Blackmon. Blackmon and/or Charles Woodson as emergency WRs are at least as dependable as this guy.
Moose got it done and beat Harris consistantly.
Berrian got lucky and cashed in a gift from our defense. Any WR in the league would have scored the TD on that broken play---including Martin. Berrian was shut out after that. In any case, I don't doubt he has some talent ... I doubt his ability to stay healthy. What do you suppose is the over/under on how many games Berrian plays before sitting out at least one game due to injury? I'd put it at about 8, and I'll take the under.
Moose has disappeared in 4 of the past 5 seasons. He had a good game this week, but will he keep it up? History suggests not. Driver had a pretty good game too, and we can reasonably expect that to continue.
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Do you really want to keep me laughing all day at Packer statements like this?Originally posted by nbarnett56ok but you do understand the packers secondary did play terribly against muhammad while driver was doing it against the vaunted bears defense...Originally posted by DabaddestbearMuhammad was the better WR today. Got open more often and more catches.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersDriver is a better receiver the Muhammad.
Bradley has good potential. I know we all like Jennings, but he has to prove it in a regular season game. Is Bradley fully healthy though? I know he had an injury, but I haven't heard if he's 100%.
The rest of the wideouts are a wash, but Green Bay has a big edge at the TE position.
Crow served again.
I am sure if the search feature on here was actually some good I could find post where you were saying how much better your defense would be because of the DB's. So now you admit that Harris is trash and Woodson should have never been signed? I believe in the latter but Harris is a good DB that Moose beat to the ball even with tight coverage. Most of Moose's catches were in tight coverage. I tihnk Driver had one catch in which a DB was right there with him. I know the Bears DB's are better than the Packers, but you guys on here was trying to convince me different all the way up to this game and I am sure some will afterwards.
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Dont get cocky? I am only a fan not a player. I can get cocky all I want cuz it wont affect the Bears play on the field. You say bad GB defense today but isnt that contradictory to what you were saying prior to tihs game? GB only strong suit was to be their defense. Why couldnt it just be that the Bears offense left it all on the field while the Packers defense never shold have been on that field.Originally posted by nbarnett56look you guys had a good win but don't get too cocky... especially after you played against a bad green bay defense... what happens if moose gets hurt, then your receiving corps is in trouble?Originally posted by DabaddestbearThe run was contained and you guys had no shot. By the way the Bears put up more points than Seattle, Carolina, and soon the Colts. The Colts will lose to the Giants.Originally posted by BretskyOriginally posted by BEARMANYou aint asking for much are you ? LOL
GO BEARS !
I already know you're starting Grossman; so low scoring and turnovers. Not that much really.
It's not like we're playing Carolina or the Colts or Seattle. We're playing a team with a piss poor passing offense and a great defense. So contain the run and you've got a shot.
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