college players getting smart

[red]

2 big name players (fournette and mccaffrey) have decided to skip their teams worthless bowl games and avoid risking injury and and the loss of millions of dollars like jaylon smith did last year

some are saying the dam has been ready to break for awhile, and this could be the start of many guys deciding not to play in bowl games from now on

its a very interesting development in the whole college/nfl developmental league debate

smith lost at least 10 million dollars by playing in a bowl game that made tons of money for everyone but the players. its possible that he could lose 10s of millions over the course of what could have been his career if he never recovers fully from the injury

[pbmax]

Herbstreit trolled them, asking what happened to sticking with your teammates?

Didn't see if any asked Herbie how often he put his career on the line broadcasting for free to engage in camaraderie with the guys in the truck.

[King Friday]

Gets you to thinking that there seems to be little chance that major college football can survive the "amateur" designation much longer. It is a sham whose time has come and gone.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Gets you to thinking that there seems to be little chance that major college football can survive the "amateur" designation much longer. It is a sham whose time has come and gone.

quoted for truthiness

[Harlan Huckleby]

Except I still think Ramczyk should come back and play his senior year for the Badgers. It's the right thing to do.

edit: holy shit, just learned guy needs surgery.

https://www.landof10.com/wisconsin/report-wisconsin-ol-ryan-ramczyk-surgery-cotton-bowl-miss-4-months

I was only joking above.

[red]

Gets you to thinking that there seems to be little chance that major college football can survive the "amateur" designation much longer. It is a sham whose time has come and gone.

yup, i think either college players start getting paid soon, or the college game will slowly go away

it might take something like the usfl or xfl to come in and allow guys right out of high school. a true professional developmental league

i can't even believe its legal for the nfl or nba to force guys to even go to college

[Fritz]

I was listening to a Detroit talking head today, angry at these two players- "What about loyalty to the program they've committed to? What about loyalty to their teammates?"

That's a joke. Why doesn't anybody go after these head coaches who jump ship after three or four years and move on to a bigger paycheck? Who calls them out on the carpet after they've begged and pleaded and promised some 17 year old kid and his parents that sure, he cares about Johnny, and he'll be there for all four years of Johnny's career - and then they split after Johnny's been there one season, cuz someone promised coach a bigger paycheck and more prestige?

I sometimes hear that lame-ass "but they get a free college education!" Okay, nice, but what if they didn't? If they chose to go to college, they'd end up like everyone else - with about $100,000 of student debt. So you could argue that their scholarship is worth that much. But the coaches who are jumping to other, bigger programs are getting at least five times that much - per year. Look at the names bandied about for LSU's job. These guys are already making over half a million - per year - but it's okay for them to jump ship, but not for the kids to skip a bowl game so they don'ttake a chance on losing a future paycheck?

How can we expect these kids to be loyal when we don't expect their supposed role models to be loyal?

[pbmax]

^ Coaches don't even stick around to coach the bowl games anymore.

Free education is a fine thing. But no one ever discusses cost versus sticker price. And its been a long time since anyone thought being paid strictly in credits redeemable at the company store was a good idea.

[Zool]

yup, i think either college players start getting paid soon, or the college game will slowly go away

it might take something like the usfl or xfl to come in and allow guys right out of high school. a true professional developmental league

i can't even believe its legal for the nfl or nba to force guys to even go to college

They can't "force them to" in language but they can stop them from playing in the pro league for what ever time they determine. Basketball players can at least go to Europe.

[gbgary]

i don't have a problem with it if it's a meaningless game. i bet they talked with their teammates and got their input. about 3/4 of the bowl games need to be eliminated anyway as there are way too many.

[call_me_ishmael]

yup, i think either college players start getting paid soon, or the college game will slowly go away

it might take something like the usfl or xfl to come in and allow guys right out of high school. a true professional developmental league

i can't even believe its legal for the nfl or nba to force guys to even go to college

They don't force anyone to go to college. They require waiting 3 years after graduating high school in the case of the NFL, and 1 year in basketball. Both sports product would suffer if they allowed young kids to be play. The talent AND body is still developing.

[channtheman]

Coaches don't stay to coach bowl games, I don't see anything wrong with players forgoing the useless games too. Shows how wrong everyone was who said the bowl games matter. No one except the teams fans in the bowl care about them, and half of those teams fans probably don't care either.

[Pugger]

yup, i think either college players start getting paid soon, or the college game will slowly go away

it might take something like the usfl or xfl to come in and allow guys right out of high school. a true professional developmental league

i can't even believe its legal for the nfl or nba to force guys to even go to college

Maybe a player shouldn't be drafted right out of high school into the NFL. How often do we hear of guys maturing and getting to full size during their college years ala Clay?

[Pugger]

^ Coaches don't even stick around to coach the bowl games anymore.

Free education is a fine thing. But no one ever discusses cost versus sticker price. And its been a long time since anyone thought being paid strictly in credits redeemable at the company store was a good idea.

Wisconsin had 2 HCs jump ship to take a job at another institution right before a bowl game leaving those players without a HC. One year Barry Alvarez stepped in to coach the kids against Auburn in the Outback Bowl in 2014 after Anderson left for Oregon State.

[pbmax]

They don't force anyone to go to college. They require waiting 3 years after graduating high school in the case of the NFL, and 1 year in basketball. Both sports product would suffer if they allowed young kids to be play. The talent AND body is still developing.

Has there ever been anyone who got drafted (or even played) in the NFL after taking 3 years off after high school without playing a sport in college?

That is why baseball, correctly, has a minor league. Basketball sort of has one (though its way too inferior at the moment) and football is talking about one.