naughty & nice - Vikings game

[RashanGary]

2 Denver

NY Giants 3

[yetisnowman]

the good old argument, as long as no other team has done it, then its ok that we don't

has any other team in the nfl had 2 HOF Qb's for 25 years straight?

It will likely be 30 plus when Aaron is done. Great point. And this is why I hate the argument. How many teams have had HOF qbs for that stretch AND have had THAT many chances to make a run? We have made the playoffs virtually every year since Favre took over. So yes, when you look at context, two titles in 30+ years would be very disappointing.

[Pugger]

It will likely be 30 plus when Aaron is done. Great point. And this is why I hate the argument. How many teams have had HOF qbs for that stretch AND have had THAT many chances to make a run? We have made the playoffs virtually every year since Favre took over. So yes, when you look at context, two titles in 30+ years would be very disappointing.

This just shows how damn hard it is to win the whole thing. Only a small handful of teams right now are consistently in the playoffs every year so you really can't just dismiss making the postseason being no big deal. If AR plays as long as Brady, Brees and the Mannings we still have a good shot at another Lombardi before he retires.

[Zool]

Bart Starr 2
Johnny Unitas 1
George Blanda 0
Sonny Jurgensen 0
Roger Staubach 2
Joe Namath 1
Fran Tarkenton 0
Len Dawson 1
Terry Bradshaw 4
Bob Griese 2
Dan Fouts 0
Joe Montana 4
Jim Kelly 0
John Elway 2
Steve Young 1
Dan Marino 0
Warren Moon 0
Troy Aikman 3
Ken Stabler 1
Brett Favre 1

Bunch of 1 or 0 superbowl winning losers on this list. They should automatically win more. If they don't their lives are a failure.

[Fritz]

the good old argument, as long as no other team has done it, then its ok that we don't

has any other team in the nfl had 2 HOF Qb's for 25 years straight?

Ah, the good ol' bait and switch. Red, let me quote you exactly from your above post:

"and i would say the only number that anyone should really care about over those 25 years is 2

and is 2 really enough for one of the 2 best teams over the last 25 years

imo, no, its not. and thats where the team failed

in 25 years, no one is gonna give a shit who one the nfc north in 2016 but lost in the conference championship"

So people responded, listing the three teams of the past twenty-five years who've won more than two Super Bowls. That would put Green Bay in impressive company.

But then all of a sudden, wait, it's not about only winning two; it's because of the quarterbacks Green Bay has had. So now your argument isn't about "only" winning two; it's about having failed your HOF QB's by apparently not giving them the supporting cast or coaching necessary to win more than two?



If that is your new argument, then Zool's list is instructive. All those organizations whose HOF QB's won no or one SB have failed their fans and QB's, correct?

[hoosier]

Bart Starr 2
Johnny Unitas 1
George Blanda 0
Sonny Jurgensen 0
Roger Staubach 2
Joe Namath 1
Fran Tarkenton 0
Len Dawson 1
Terry Bradshaw 4
Bob Griese 2
Dan Fouts 0
Joe Montana 4
Jim Kelly 0
John Elway 2
Steve Young 1
Dan Marino 0
Warren Moon 0
Troy Aikman 3
Ken Stabler 1
Brett Favre 1

Bunch of 1 or 0 superbowl winning losers on this list. They should automatically win more. If they don't their livers are a failure.

FIFY

[Fritz]

How many SB's has Ben Roethlisberger won?

[Zool]

FIFY

Pills are a MFer on the old liver.

Someone should make an All Addicts QB list. (2 drink Tommy) Kramer needs some recognition.

[Fritz]

Well, Joe Namath has to be #1 on anyone's list; I saw him on MNF a few years back, and he was as drunk as a skunk. And looked like he'd lived a rough life.

[BZnDallas]

Ah, the good ol' bait and switch. Red, let me quote you exactly from your above post:

"and i would say the only number that anyone should really care about over those 25 years is 2

and is 2 really enough for one of the 2 best teams over the last 25 years

imo, no, its not. and thats where the team failed

in 25 years, no one is gonna give a shit who one the nfc north in 2016 but lost in the conference championship"

So people responded, listing the three teams of the past twenty-five years who've won more than two Super Bowls. That would put Green Bay in impressive company.

But then all of a sudden, wait, it's not about only winning two; it's because of the quarterbacks Green Bay has had. So now your argument isn't about "only" winning two; it's about having failed your HOF QB's by apparently not giving them the supporting cast or coaching necessary to win more than two?



If that is your new argument, then Zool's list is instructive. All those organizations whose HOF QB's won no or one SB have failed their fans and QB's, correct?

Damnit FRITZ!!! Why you gotta use so much damn common sense! Oh!!! Bc it ain't that common. Laughed my ass off when Red replied to my last post about Cobb not being hurt. Its only truth if it fits my narrative!!! I'll try to remember that nonsense.

[Fritz]

"It's only truth if it fits my narrative."

How true that is. Welcome to the world of Donald Trump.

[KYPack]

Well, Joe Namath has to be #1 on anyone's list; I saw him on MNF a few years back, and he was as drunk as a skunk. And looked like he'd lived a rough life.

Everybody is gettin' old, Fritz.

That was 2003 when Joe Willie was totally fucked up and famously hit on ESPN sideline reporter Suzy Kolber. Joe was drunker than Red on one of his benders and did a clean-up bc of his famous fuck-up.

That act became the name of a famous football blog, Kissing Suzy Kolber (now basically defunct).

The Kissing Suzy blog started in June 2006, a few months after the good ship Packerrats sailed

[RashanGary]

Everybody is gettin' old, Fritz.

That was 2003 when Joe Willie was totally fucked up and famously hit on ESPN sideline reporter Suzy Kolber. Joe was drunker than Red on one of his benders and did a clean-up bc of his famous fuck-up.

That act became the name of a famous football blog, Kissing Suzy Kolber (now basically defunct).

The Kissing Suzy blog started in June 2006, a few months after the good ship Packerrats sailed

I've known you guys for a long time!! I was 23 when I first started at the js forums. I'm 35 now. WOW!! An 8 year marriage, a divorce, three kids, a couple owis, a few jail stints, and now almost 4 years sobriety. wtf!!!

[Iron Mike]

Well, Joe Namath has to be #1 on anyone's list; I saw him on MNF a few years back, and he was as drunk as a skunk. And looked like he'd lived a rough life.

I'd still put him behind Kerry "Vodka" Collins....

[Iron Mike]

I've known you guys for a long time!! I was 23 when I first started at the js forums. I'm 35 now. WOW!! An 8 year marriage, a divorce, three kids, a couple owis, a few jail stints, and now almost 4 years sobriety. wtf!!!

Didn't you used to go to the wine store in De Pere that was about 4 blocks from where I grew up???