More Banjo: Week 16 vs Vikings

[RashanGary]

mixed

Tretter really hit is stride as an NFL player this year before the injury. I don't get to watch other teams, so I don't know how well other centers were playing, but he's the best center I've seen in my years watching the Packers so I think probowl level.

He's shown versatility. He's been a bit of a late bloomer so he's always been so/so at a bunch of spots. That is, until this year. Rather than being so/so young JC Tretter, he was lights out in his prime JC Tretter at center. Extrapolating a few dots out and assuming he made strides that would translate to other spots..... I think maybe he could be a good player at another position. LG, RG or RT would be the three he might be able to play at a high level if his great improvement in strength and savvy translates.

I'm open to it being the other way too. Maybe He is what he always was at guard and tackle. I just don't know if he is what he always was at those spots because he proved he's more than what he ever was this year at at least one spot. Like I said, I'd like to see what he can do before we make any decisions. But they know more than we do, just like with lane taylor so we'll see. I'm sure they'll make a smart move.

[RashanGary]

I like Spriggs. I think he's been a solid rookie OL in the times he's seen the field.

Put me on record though, right now, I think JC Tretter is in his prime, is a very good player and can play any spot better than the rookie version of spriggs.

[vince]

Spriggs reminds me of Bakh when he was a rook. They battle but can get overpowered.

Give him a couple years to develop and get stronger (like Bakh's done), and I see no reason why he won't become a stalwart bookend for many years. He's gonna push Bulaga inside or out of the lineup eventually.

I'm concerned about Tretter's ability to hold up physically. His injury history might suggest that his body isn't built for 310+ lbs of bulk and getting pounded on. It'll be interesting to see what happens next year and beyond... I like Bulaga or even Lang for a year or two at RG over Tretter, and he's not likely to accept being a back-up going into his prime earning years.

[Patler]

I'm concerned about Tretter's ability to hold up physically. His injury history might suggest that his body isn't built for 310+ lbs of bulk and getting pounded on.

That's my concern too. He was a tight end until his junior year, when he bulked up to near 300 to play tackle. It might be he just isn't structured to support a lineman's body. It reminds me of Mike Neal, who was always injured until he lost about 30 pounds.

[RashanGary]

I can't pin the Tretter situation down at all. Love the way he played this year. But all you guys make sense too. That's a tough decision right there.

[pbmax]

Has Linsley been more available than Tretter?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Put me on record though, right now, I think JC Tretter is in his prime, is a very good player and can play any spot better than the rookie version of spriggs.

Tretter was a flat-out disaster at LT, Spriggs looks quite good as a rookie there. It's true Tretter is in his prime. I don't think Tretter has the strength to play guard. He's a good backup tackle.

My opinion is based on a few plays where I notice something about a player. It's not like we get a good view on most plays. I think Spriggs could quickly play his way into being a good starting tackle, despite the vulnerability (for now) to a bull rush. Tretter can also be over-powered.

[pbmax]

Tretter was a flat-out disaster at LT, Spriggs looks quite good as a rookie there. It's true Tretter is in his prime. I don't think Tretter has the strength to play guard. He's a good backup tackle.

My opinion is based on a few plays where I notice something about a player. It's not like we get a good view on most plays. I think Spriggs could quickly play his way into being a good starting tackle, despite the vulnerability (for now) to a bull rush. Tretter can also be over-powered.

Spriggs and Tretter were fine with speed (though Spriggs got burned by someone good twice), fared worse with power. Tretter was the second best LT on the team last year, he outplayed all the other subs and he was better than banged up Bach. Spriggs is a more natural tackle, so I agree he will be better there for longer.

But Tretter showed Mike Flanagan like versatility with that move.

EDIT: On further thought, think Spriggs this year was hurt by speed more than power versus Washington I want to say?

[Patler]

Has Linsley been more available than Tretter?

Tretter has had injuries that made him unavailable for at least parts of 3 of 4 years, Linsley 2 of 3. As for games available, Tretter has been available for just 31 of 63, Linsley for 37 of 47. So I guess Linsley has been more available, sort of.

[Guiness]

Tretter has had injuries that made him unavailable for at least parts of 3 of 4 years, Linsley 2 of 3. As for games available, Tretter has been available for just 31 of 63, Linsley for 37 of 47. So I guess Linsley has been more available, sort of.

When you're looking at availability, personally I'd discount major injuries that land a player on IR - would you say Jordy was only availble 50% of time in 14 and 15? Likewise, the two injuries that landed Tretter on IR before the season started concern me less than a player who is often unavailable for 1 or 2 games during the season, indicating he has trouble fully recovering from the weekly beating.

[Patler]

Tretter was a flat-out disaster at LT, Spriggs looks quite good as a rookie there. It's true Tretter is in his prime. I don't think Tretter has the strength to play guard. He's a good backup tackle.

When was Tretter a disaster at LT? I think the only time he played it was the one game last year, when he was hands down better than Sitton had been the week before, and Barclay the week before that. Story on the game:

http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-p...-in-jc-tretter

[Harlan Huckleby]

When was Tretter a disaster at LT?

I can't remember when or where he bombed in stints there, but it wasn't last year.

[RashanGary]

Tretter was a flat-out disaster at LT, Spriggs looks quite good as a rookie there. It's true Tretter is in his prime. I don't think Tretter has the strength to play guard. He's a good backup tackle.

My opinion is based on a few plays where I notice something about a player. It's not like we get a good view on most plays. I think Spriggs could quickly play his way into being a good starting tackle, despite the vulnerability (for now) to a bull rush. Tretter can also be over-powered.

I'm a crusty old bastard. Don't like rookies

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm a Trumpian football analyst. Facts are fungible, wisdom comes from the center: think with the gut, shoot from the hip.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm a Trumpian football analyst. Facts are fungible, wisdom comes from the center: think with the gut, shoot from the hip.

You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you in the ass hahahahahaha.