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"You don't put people on the 53 if you don't think they can contribute to the 46 (game day actives)." - M3 speaking about promoting Herb
Pretty sure they have carried some O lineman that they did not really want to play on the 46 before. But regardless, he is sidestepping the question a bit about bringing Waters up versus any alternatives.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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pb, you haven't been paying attention. There are NO alternatives.Originally posted by pbmax View Post
One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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I kinda liked that amoeba thing. That was essentially a zone, right? Or at least a partial zone over the top? Having man coverage on 3 wideouts, 2 safeties over the top, Thomas or Martinez in man coverage on the TE and another LB if the RB goes out, all that doesn't leave very many people to put pressure on Eli, but it might be necessary to stop them.
The thing I like about the zone is it puts pressure on the QB to think - think fast if you have a pass rush. Eli doesn't seem to me to be too bright. He will panic; He will throw picks; He kinda reminds me of Cutler. Eli has played good games, but I've seen him stink it up more often than not. If we just don't give him easy targets and maybe get just a little bit of pressure on him with a minimum of people, I think he will give us some gifts.
Make it happen, Dom.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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No better alternatives in the experience and opinion of the Packers front office and coaching staff.Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Postpb, you haven't been paying attention. There are NO alternatives.
I didn't see McCarthy sidestepping any questions though. Perhaps you can expand on that PB?
I thought he unequivocably said that they're convinced that Herb Waters, who has been practicing, meeting and learning with the team all year, has earned his opportunity to be promoted and they feel he's their best option to replace Dorleant's roster spot.
He also commented on how they maintain their board of available players and conduct workouts every Tuesday for evaluations. If they thought there was a better option available, they'd have made it.
He also intimated that Waters probably won't make the game-day roster, so they're likely going to dress Hawkins for emergency duty and go with Gunter, Randall, and Hyde, with Burnett inside and Brice at nickel safety and Evans added in dime.
The way this game figures to play out that doesn't seem too bad. That's how they ended the Detroit game and that crew held up better than with Rollins in the game.Last edited by vince; 01-05-2017, 05:32 PM.Comment
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You really have to kind of laugh about how we respond to certain situations.
The #3 back, Crockett, was lost for the year. Then Starks gets hurt, then Lacy goes out, comes back, goes out again, Starks comes back, is ineffective. Fans excorciate Thompson for not having the foresight to get better depth. Damn you, Ted! Couldn't you see the future? Why didn't you trade for a running back, or sign someone who looked promising for a while for someone else? Oh, wait. You did. And it turns out your best option was already on your roster.
Okay, never mind. Crickets on that situation now.
Before the year began, we were all crowing about the Packers having one of the deepest secondaries in the league. For corners, you had Shields, Randall, Rollins, Gunther, Hyde, and these two promising rookies, Dorleant and Hawkins. Six guys!!
Now, Shields is done for the year, Randall has been hurt - different injuries - and has not progressed as hoped. Certainly Rollins has not progressed as hoped, and now he's done. So two of your top three corners are hurting, one gone for the season, the other missing games while getting groin surgery. Then your #3 corner goes out at the last game of the regular season, and so does one of those promising deep-backup guys.
And what do we do? We get on this board and complain that, by golly, Thompson shoulda seen this coming! Why didn't he trade for a vet a few months ago! Peanut Tillman! Tramon Williams! Somebody, anybody! Ted's not doing his job because we all know he hates signing free agents or making trades!
On another note, Vince, regarding PB's idea of MM sidestepping, I interpreted that to mean that PB believes that the Packers are carrying Kyle Murphy on the 53, hoping to goodness he won't be needed cuz he's not ready to play."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Packers have no defense. Packers lose by 10 or worseComment
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CROCKETT........YUKOriginally posted by Fritz View Post
D JACKSON.......YUK
I can't criticize TT for the secondary; too much there. But I'd take Tillman if he's out there over some of the muck that will be playing this weekend FWIW. I don't even know if he's available for free to be honest. But I'm not blaming the turtle for not making a tradeTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
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I hate to say it but I agree with you, sharpcheddar. I think the Giants' secondary will blanket the Packers' receivers, and we'll all be wondering why the hell they can't get open while Rodgers dances around forever and ends up sacked. On offense, the Giants will run the ball and run the ball and control the clock, and the Packer defense will be unable to stop it."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Yeah. Fan talk is like bar talk. Everybody's an expert and nobody's shy about giving an opinion or making a wise crack. You know what they say about opinions. Anyway, it's an interesting way to spend time between games. And it's about as serious as this weekend's round of golf in your regular foursome. Yeah, you gotta laugh.Originally posted by Fritz View PostOne time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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that's why they'll have to go with the short/quick stuff.Originally posted by Fritz View Post
they haven't run on anyone all year.
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I hate to say it also, but this sounds like a very likely way things could go. Just the same, I think Aaron Rodgers will find a way to make plays and beat the Giants D. I also think Capers will pull some kind of rabbit out of the hat and stop whatever without giving up too much of whatever else.Originally posted by Fritz View PostWhat could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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Come on fuckdoggle. We need to hit Eli early and often.Originally posted by pbmax View PostHow the Giants can defeat the Packers D without needing to find Eli Miracle Manning.
Short version: change entire offense.
Bonus McCarthy coaching tree: McAdoo does not have their bad TEs stay in to pass block much. Perry/Matthews/Pepper/Jones/Eliot/Fuckdoggle should have a field day with their bad tackles/The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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Oh, he learned over the years that practicing outdoors for this game is a must. Now if he can learn to not take his foot off the gas.Originally posted by pbmax View PostThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Postpb, you haven't been paying attention. There are NO alternatives.
He did, eventually, get around to the actual answer, that they are always updating their board, at least weekly, of available vets with tryouts and other research on the pro personnel side.
But he never answered the part about his preference or the difference between promoting the young versus signing a vet. This was after Pro Football Talk had an article about how the GM position could be affected by Wolf leaving, and in it they brought up the reports from last year by McGinn of friction between Thompson and McCarthy over free agency.
Its odd for a highly successful coach, who supposedly has a huge beef with his GM, to miss an opportunity to point out how shorthanded they are.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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