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  • #31
    Originally posted by Zool View Post
    And a #2 or #3 depending on Gunter's development.
    I think Randall is good. Had tough injury luck this year. Gunter is a solid nickle/dime piece.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by vince View Post
      Coach em up and make it work.
      I wouldn't expect to hear you say anything else.
      One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
      John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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      • #33
        Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
        I think Randall is good. Had tough injury luck this year. Gunter is a solid nickle/dime piece.
        I'm not sold on Randall yet. He's really really bad this year. PFF had him at 110QBR against for the season. Shields could be calling it a career. Gunter is playing better than the rest of the CBs right now. Maybe he's Al Harris 2.0? Not super fast, but big and strong?
        Originally posted by 3irty1
        This is museum quality stupidity.

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        • #34
          It's a pipe dream but I'd love to eliminate Shields' presumably retiring contract, along with Peppers' and sign Stephon Gilmore who's 26, an impending free agent (unless Buffalo franchises him) and at the top of his game.

          Restructure and extend Rodgers too.

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          • #35
            everyone practiced, to some level, today except Rollins.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Patler View Post
              This has been a lost year for both Randall and Rollins. Hopefully they bounce back next year.

              MM has said a couple times the last few weeks that it is a testament to Randall's toughness that he has even played. MM even acknowledged once that he maybe should have been held out. Every week he seems to add something new to his list of injuries, and even the earlier ones are not yet healed, apparently.

              As for Rollins, he seems to be over his injuries, but sure isn't playing well, or at least not consistently well. An odd thing I have noticed from him. In each of the last three games he had plays going down the sideline, and seemed to be in somewhat decent position to make a play on the ball. He seemed to turn back and see the ball. In each case he jumped to bat the ball, but was very much early and the receivers made easy catches as he came down before the ball got to the receiver. His timing was very much off on each play. Kind of like a better expecting a fastball, and being fooled by a change-up.
              It's time for the smart people in the room both on the owners and players union side to come up with a way to cover roster spots for guys who need to be held out, but not put on IR. That would address a player safety issue as well. MLB has the disabled list. I know that the only "call up" would be a practice squad player, or perhaps integrating a guy who was on PUP working his way back.

              Bottom line, it sucks to have to hold roster spots for guys who are banged up, may try to gut it out, but ultimately might prove a liability even if they can get on the field. Expand the practice squad roster, or allow x number of guys who have not accrued but so much service time to be on a reserve roster that pays more than the practice squad and could allow a team to start stashing players at a certain position if an injury plague hits. Those reserve players could have options just like MLB players, and once you are up and down so many times from the reserve roster to active roster back to the reserve, teams would have to make a permanent active roster decision about that player, or risk having that player signed by another team. That would make the reserve roster a "warm spare" vs. the rest of the practice squad being more of a "cold spare".
              "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                This has been a lost year for both Randall and Rollins. Hopefully they bounce back next year.

                MM has said a couple times the last few weeks that it is a testament to Randall's toughness that he has even played. MM even acknowledged once that he maybe should have been held out. Every week he seems to add something new to his list of injuries, and even the earlier ones are not yet healed, apparently.

                As for Rollins, he seems to be over his injuries, but sure isn't playing well, or at least not consistently well. An odd thing I have noticed from him. In each of the last three games he had plays going down the sideline, and seemed to be in somewhat decent position to make a play on the ball. He seemed to turn back and see the ball. In each case he jumped to bat the ball, but was very much early and the receivers made easy catches as he came down before the ball got to the receiver. His timing was very much off on each play. Kind of like a better expecting a fastball, and being fooled by a change-up.
                It's time for the smart people in the room both on the owners and players union side to come up with a way to cover roster spots for guys who need to be held out, but not put on IR. That would address a player safety issue as well. MLB has the disabled list. I know that the only "call up" would be a practice squad player, or perhaps integrating a guy who was on PUP working his way back.

                Bottom line, it sucks to have to hold roster spots for guys who are banged up, and may try to gut it out, but ultimately might prove a liability even if they can get on the field. Expand the practice squad roster, or allow x number of guys who have not accrued but so much service time to be on a reserve roster that pays more than the practice squad and could allow a team to start stashing players at a certain position if an injury plague hits. Those reserve players could have options just like MLB players, and once you are up and down so many times from the reserve roster to active roster back to the reserve, teams would have to make a permanent active roster decision about that player, or risk having that player signed by another team. That would make the reserve roster a "warm spare" vs. the rest of the practice squad being more of a "cold spare".
                "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                • #38
                  Michael Cohen ‏@Michael_Cohen13 1h1 hour ago
                  #Packers CB Makinton Dorleant said he tore the ACL in his right knee against the Lions and will have surgery in the near future.

                  Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 2h2 hours ago
                  I wondered why the #Packers activated a CB (now on IR) instead of RB Eddie Lacy earlier. Answer: Lacy would not have been ready this season

                  THAT IS A GOOD ANSWER, BUT NOT THE ONLY ONE IAN
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #39
                    An oral history of the 2007 NFC Championship Game: http://www.si.com/nfl/2017/01/05/pac...e-oral-history

                    I made it to halftime. Ryan Grant may have thrown Favre under the frozen bus.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                      Assuming Rollins can't play and Randall isn't 100%, I'd put Gunter on Beckham and let Hawkins and Waters play man on whoever when they're in the game. Then, I'd send however many it takes to get to Manning. If we play zone and give Manning time to throw, well...not good.

                      Gunter on Beckham
                      `... You could cover Beckham as well.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post

                        Gunter on Beckham
                        `... You could cover Beckham as well.
                        Gunter had perhaps his best game of the season in the Packers’ Oct. 9 meeting with the Giants, when he spent much of the game matched up with Giants No. 1 receiver Odell Beckham Jr. Although Beckham finished with five receptions for 56 yards and a touchdown, none of those catches came against Gunter. The Packers won 23-16 and the next week, Beckham caught eight passes for 222 yards and two touchdowns in a 27-23 win over Baltimore.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #42
                          We can only conclude from Woody's post, then, that Maxie is a helluva cover corner.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            We can only conclude from Woody's post, then, that Maxie is a helluva cover corner.
                            He once held Pat Richter without a catch in an old East versus West High school football game in Madison in the fall of 1958.

                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #44
                              I played RB in High School...failed. Joined a touch football league and played Center on offense and LB on defense. I tried covering this WR once from a Catholic HS varsity team. He blew by me so fast my knickers rolled up.
                              One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                              John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                              • #45

                                Max McGhee obviously.

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