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  • #16
    Originally posted by vince View Post
    Perhaps a confidential rating system of league scouting representives would be best.
    No way, i've heard McGinns scouts shit talk HOF players half way into their careers (aaron Rodgers for one) and packer HOFer jordy for two. They stick with their stupid college opinion for way too long.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • #17
      Those quotes are from who knows who and who knows when.

      He often has good information, particularly when researching/reviewing game film and tracking information from it, but much of his writing demonstrates that he considers his craft to be more entertainment-based and designed primarily to generate profit for himself and his employer not inform the public. He's good at what he does (stirring up and entertaining his readers), but it often demonstrates a lack of journalistic integrity.

      I'm not saying they're made up, but the bottom line is I would have no doubt those confidential quotes are often pulled out of his files to serve his specific editorial purpose and they probably are years old a lot of times. Who's to know or have the ability to question him on it?

      The real point is that it seems awfully dubious to suggest the the entirety of the professional NFL scouting population is incompetent and out of date in their ongoing player evaluations. Some of them are incompetent no doubt and none of them would agree about all player assessments all the time, but assessing the competency of an entire profession on select loaded quotes included in McGinn's purposed propaganda seems a little offbase to me.

      If you and I can modify our assessments as players grow and develop, I'm pretty sure the professional scouts can too.
      Last edited by vince; 01-07-2017, 11:11 PM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
        I've seen it before, they keep saying jordy is a so/so player or Aaron wasn't a 1st round pick for like 5 years then eventually they shut up and get on board with common sense
        Where has any scout, or any person for that matter, ever said "Aaron Rodgers wasn't a 1st round pick for like 5 years"?

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        • #19
          You shouldn't let paper writers vote on anything anymore. Half of what they do is for shock value. It's all about the clicks making then non-credible IMO
          Originally posted by 3irty1
          This is museum quality stupidity.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Zool View Post
            You shouldn't let paper writers vote on anything anymore. Half of what they do is for shock value. It's all about the clicks making then non-credible IMO
            Agree.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #21
              Agreed but the NFL neither can nor would want to stop them. Biased, non-credible media and all that, but they still fuel the engine unfortunately. It doesn't mean the league couldn't build a better, more credible system though to promote its best performers each year. The Pro Bowl system engages the fanbase to a limited extent I suppose, but I'd say most recognize it as the joke it is driven by nothing more than popularity and name recognition, followed by a ridiculous never-ending additive process of watering down the no credibility it started with because they actually have to field two teams to perform a joke of an exhibition that the league's brand now becomes worse off for actually playing each year.

              There needs to be something better than and/or in addition to that if they want something seen as legit.
              Last edited by vince; 01-08-2017, 04:26 AM.

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              • #22
                Zach Kruse
                @ZachKruse2

                David Bakhtiari really had an incredible season. According to @PFF_Sam, Aaron Rodgers was responsible for more pressures than Bakhtiari.

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                • #23
                  I always said Aaron Rodgers can't block for shit.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #24
                    Anyone know how to embed tweets? Iron Sheik is a Bakhtiari fan.

                    https://twitter.com/the_ironsheik/st...13762427711488
                    "When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time" Max McGee

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