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  • #31
    Richard Rodgers was invisible this game. You would think there were at least some opportunities for him.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by oldbutnotdeadyet View Post
      And as a lone voice in the crowd, I wanna give props to my man Jeff Janis. He doesn't play much but yesterday made the most of his opportunities, even when I saw the hate come from the board when he hesitated on 1st kick off return. I want to note that on his last kickoff return, how close he was to breaking it. The boy is fast!
      My main issue with Janis is that for being 220, he sure does get rag dolled easy.
      Originally posted by 3irty1
      This is museum quality stupidity.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
        I didn't see that, Smidge, what I did see was some swagger which I liked.
        Saw it on a replay of Hyde's big return. Watched last night so I could rewind.
        No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by oldbutnotdeadyet View Post
          And as a lone voice in the crowd, I wanna give props to my man Jeff Janis. He doesn't play much but yesterday made the most of his opportunities, even when I saw the hate come from the board when he hesitated on 1st kick off return. I want to note that on his last kickoff return, how close he was to breaking it. The boy is fast!
          His first one was a beauty of a read on a short kick. He got to the hole before coverage could.

          He just doesn't display that awareness often enough.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #35
            The way Janis has been playing on ST, he probably gets the old Jarrett Bush gig. Back-up position guy, ST terror. He might even learn the WR gig by osmosis after awhile.

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            • #36
              Winners:

              Fritz, Tony Oday for bringing the reverse jinx.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                Winners:

                Fritz, Tony Oday for bringing the reverse jinx.
                Don't mess with that karma thing. lol
                One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                • #38
                  Winners: Packers Special Teams
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    Winners: Packers Special Teams
                    Excellent point, I thought the entire special teams had as good a game as a group as they had all year.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by oldbutnotdeadyet View Post
                      Excellent point, I thought the entire special teams had as good a game as a group as they had all year.
                      HIRE ZOOK!!!

                      Doh...we already did.
                      One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                      John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Zool View Post
                        My main issue with Janis is that for being 220, he sure does get rag dolled easy.
                        Can't say I recall ever seeing that; but I have see him destroy a double team as the gunner on punt coverage, and not being slowed the least by blockers in kickoff coverage. On kickoffs, Janis is in the far left position most often, and the Packers almost always kick to the right when they are setting up for a coverage/return kick. It's Janis' job to get down field and cut the field width in half at about the 15 or 20 yard line. On at least one yesterday, it looked like the return guy was going to bounce it outside, but Janis stood up the would be blocker, made the return guy turn upfield between the hash and sideline, right into the teeth of the coverage. Janis didn't make the tackle, but he was responsible for it.

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                        • #42
                          Schum had a terrific game, as did the punt coverage team in general.
                          Also, I'm still not sure who was at fault on the King TD (Randall or HHCD), but Randall had a nice game other than that. We're gonna need him to match up with Beasley on Sunday.

                          Participants - DB's need to come up with the INT when they have a chance. So close on many opportunities
                          Go PACK

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Patler View Post
                            Can't say I recall ever seeing that; but I have see him destroy a double team as the gunner on punt coverage, and not being slowed the least by blockers in kickoff coverage. On kickoffs, Janis is in the far left position most often, and the Packers almost always kick to the right when they are setting up for a coverage/return kick. It's Janis' job to get down field and cut the field width in half at about the 15 or 20 yard line. On at least one yesterday, it looked like the return guy was going to bounce it outside, but Janis stood up the would be blocker, made the return guy turn upfield between the hash and sideline, right into the teeth of the coverage. Janis didn't make the tackle, but he was responsible for it.
                            He doesn't exhibit that toughness nearly as often when he has the ball.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                              Don't mess with that karma thing. lol
                              That's right. Shhh....

                              Somebody's gotta carry the load on this board.

                              As for winners and all that, I do think Janis played out of his mind on ST and is a winner this week. Not just the runback; the coverage was lovely.

                              C Michaels does get the thumbs down for the play Smidge saw - I saw it too on the replay and it pissed me off. Dude, follow the damn play in case there's a fumble! Pay attention, man!


                              Yet he did inject some assertiveness hitting the hole on his carries, which served the team well. i agree with those who said Montgomery's style did not work well against this Giants' defense.

                              Thumbs up to the much-maligned MM, who - we hope - is shedding his Marty Schottenheimer skin at long last. It seems to me that the more success the team has, the more confidence he'll have in being more aggressive. Thank goodness he's finally not trying to run out the clock with three consecutive running plays at the beginning of the fourth quarter.

                              Thumbs down to Nick Perry and, except for that one play, Clay Matthews. Man, there was no pass rush except for Peppers, though Lowry did get some push on a few plays. What we really need is for Kenny Clark to step up on passing plays and get some push in the middle. Oh, and for Nick Perry to remember he can make hisself a lotta dough if he plays better. And for Clay to remember that he needs to channel his inner wild man again.

                              Also, kudos to Micah Hyde. That guy isn't the fastest and I've lambasted him before, but he seems to be playing better now.

                              And that offensive line. What can we say? Sure, the run-blocking wasn't great, but they are probably the best pass-blocking unit in the entire NFL.
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                He doesn't exhibit that toughness nearly as often when he has the ball.
                                Well, like a lot of long striders, he can get tripped up by guys grabbing his ankles, feet; like the low hit that knocked him down on his last kick return yesterday.
                                I've seen him run through a few arm tackles too, then get knocked over when shoved from the side. I don't think it is an issue of toughness at all, witness his hail mary reception last year and the long reception before it. With Janis, I think it is just an issue of balance.

                                Another former Packer who was like that was Donny Anderson. He could run with good power, but be knocked over by a glancing blow from the side. Janis actually looks a little like Anderson did returning kicks.

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