Is McCarthy smarter than a 3rd grader?

[vince]

The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

Classic scene! I'm starting to believe... I think I'm gonna watch me some Rocky!

[pbmax]

[Pugger]

We have continuously lambasted MM for being too conservative in what could be defining moments in a game, and, yes, this has included punting in 4th and very short situations regardless of field position. We have criticized him for taking fieldgoals in 4th and inches situations.

So now we criticize him for being too aggressive,...........just because it didn't work????

No, my beef was where we were on the field. I just think it is fool-hearty to try to convert a 4th and short on our side the field when we were having issues running the ball. Why give them that kind of field position when we have the lead in case it doesn't work?

[Pugger]

the ht adjustment mirrored last weeks game...short, quick, take what they give you. the result was the same as last week too. victory!

Perhaps they should start doing that right off the bat?

[Patler]

No, my beef was where we were on the field. I just think it is fool-hearty to try to convert a 4th and short on our side the field when we were having issues running the ball. Why give them that kind of field position when we have the lead in case it doesn't work?

Had been having trouble running, but in that drive they had 27 yards on four carries, and Ripkowski would have had the first on third down if not for the face mask penalty (my opinion). I think that is what McCarthy was talking about when he said it felt like the game was changing, and he thought he could take control.

[vince]

Shortcut that for pre-game!


Dom Cape is gonna pull off the stunner! The league's worst pass defense takes a pounding from the MVP.... but Dom Cape keeps takin' it. and Bringin' it... and then dazzles and confuses with a 4th quarter zone blitz pick 6 for the Championship!

"We love ya Dom!"

Dom with Belt in hand, "eh...eh...and.. and I love yous too!"

[pbmax]

[vince]

They can't possibly lose!!!!!!

[pbmax]

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/audibles/2017/audibles-line-wild-card-round

Aaron Schatz: Honestly, running plays do normally convert more than passing plays in short yardage. I don't really have a huge problem with Green Bay's play calling there, especially the Aaron Ripkowski handoff. Yes, I probably would have let Rodgers throw one -- on a bootleg where he also could have scrambled for the yard if it was open. But it's not a huge mistake. The run-blocking just wasn't good enough.

Actually... hmmm, Packers were 30th in short-yardage conversions looking at our offensive line stats. So maybe I do have a problem with that play calling.

It's OK, Packers get it back in just a couple plays on the next drive. Randall Cobb beat Trevin Wade in man coverage and sauntered into the end zone. Wade's only in because of the DRC injury.

[vince]

Packers get it back in just a couple plays on the next drive. Randall Cobb beat Trevin Wade in man coverage and sauntered into the end zone. Wade's only in because of the DRC injury.

Hey, smart playcall. Must have been an audible.

And he sauntered. That should be a penalty.

[hoosier]

I have no problem with the decision. It looked bad only because the Packers execution was so poor or the Giants so good. I understand the argument that it was a bad decision given these specific circumstances, but the other argument is also strong, that going for it sends a signal to the team that will continue to pay off down the road regardless of what happens on that particular play. So there are good arguments on both sides. The tiebreaker for me is that advanced metrics, which are admittedly context-blind, unambiguously state that going for it on 4th and 1 from your own 40 is the right call.



http://www.advancedfootballanalytics...4th-down-study

[pbmax]

Part of the context advanced metrics misses is that the Packers are uniformly terrible this year at short yardage.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I have no problem with the decision. It looked bad only because the Packers execution was so poor or the Giants so good. I understand the argument that it was a bad decision given these specific circumstances, but the other argument is also strong, that going for it sends a signal to the team that will continue to pay off down the road regardless of what happens on that particular play. So there are good arguments on both sides. The tiebreaker for me is that advanced metrics, which are admittedly context-blind, unambiguously state that going for it on 4th and 1 from your own 40 is the right call.



http://www.advancedfootballanalytics...4th-down-study

You're reading the graph wrong, sonny. lol

[hoosier]

Part of the context advanced metrics misses is that the Packers are uniformly terrible this year at short yardage.

Only when they try to run the ball.

[hoosier]

You're reading the graph wrong, sonny. lol

Says you.