Is McCarthy smarter than a 3rd grader?

[woodbuck27]

Bad decision but it was an aggressive one. It was an aggressive grab at establishing control of the game at a time he felt they could grab the bull by the horns.

It turned out that they were able to establish it once and for all the next time they got it - and never looked back.

A bad decision (period).

[hoosier]

No, I'm serious. The 40 yards is "Distance to the End Zone." So it's from the opponent's 40, not your own.

Correct, but I was looking at the 60 yards from end zone column. These advanced metrics say go for it on 4th-and-3 or less.

[smuggler]

Maxie is confused about the graph. It pretty much always says to go for it on 4th and 1.

The zones in that graph represent the decision you make. The plotted point for 1 yard to go for the first and 60 yards to your opponents end zone falls within the Go For It zone.

[Pugger]

If we would have lost that game every one of you who say you didn't have a problem with would have been calling for Mac's head on a platter for going for it on that side of the field losing whatever momentum we had.

[Fritz]

Well...we're fans!

If they lose to the Cowboys, or to anyone else this season, there are sure to be calls for someone's head. Or everyone's head.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Well...we're fans!

If they lose to the Cowboys, or to anyone else this season, there are sure to be calls for someone's head. Or everyone's head.

Did someone say we're all getting head?

[Maxie the Taxi]

Maxie is confused about the graph. It pretty much always says to go for it on 4th and 1.

The zones in that graph represent the decision you make. The plotted point for 1 yard to go for the first and 60 yards to your opponents end zone falls within the Go For It zone.

Yes, I must confess that the graph went over my head. My apologies to Hoosier, Harlan and smuggler. If Stubby understands and believes in that graph crap, well then he needs a new nickname.

[hoosier]

Maxie is confused about the graph. It pretty much always says to go for it on 4th and 1.

The zones in that graph represent the decision you make. The plotted point for 1 yard to go for the first and 60 yards to your opponents end zone falls within the Go For It zone.

Shhh....Don't let a confused man know he's confused.

[pbmax]

Theory #173 about McCarthy's odd offense versus man coverage

All those plays, including Adams touchdown in the first half last week, feature receivers versus man coverage running a route and then coming to a stop. Not just routes that have a designed stop, like a comeback or hitch, but everyone.

I might be wrong about this, but I remember one tenet of modern passing is that you always want to be extend your routes against the man coverage, even if you are changing direction or making a move, because eventually you will come free. Especially true of deep routes (post, corner, go) and crossing routes.

Against a zone its not as clear, as sometimes you move through one zone window to another and give the QB a better lane to throw, but other routes are better if the WR sits in the open gap.

Are the Packers coming to a stop after they know Rodgers has not thrown to them in order to look at the QB and figure out how to improvise?

I say the answer is unequivocally yes.

But is this the design of the play versus man coverage?

[texaspackerbacker]

It's part of the scramble drill. The guy covering you stops too. Then you make a quick move and leave him in the dust, and hopefully the QB throws it before the cover guy can catch up. It's sorta a reset from the way the play starts at the line of scrimmage. You see it in the end zone plays all the time; You see it in Road Runner cartoons all the time. Beep Beep!

[woodbuck27]

I Googled it and I found this quote from a guy that seems to understand the graph. Hope it helps.

Yes ..when there is less than 2 minutes remaining in the game and your team must score.

[hoosier]

Yes ..when there is less than 2 minutes remaining in the game and your team must score.

You've been listening to too much Michael Robinson https://www.nfl.com/now/10103061-703...6-8867321fdf8e

[woodbuck27]

I am one of the most criticle Packer fans here and Mike McCarthy.

He simply put can do some really bone headed things. Often he clearly is stubborn to what is happening or slow to adjust.

Of course like we all might I hope that he will grow but Mike McCarthy is what he is and you can count on this. When you need to count on him the most he will let you down.

When Jordy Nelson was possibly removed from action for the remainder of the playoffs; and immediately after he was assaulted on the field:

a) What was Mike McCarthys reaction?

b) Did MM call out the Officiating ...demonstrate how pissed off he was?

What did you see happen specifically in terms of Mike McCarthy's reaction to his best WR being mugged and assaulted on the field?

Was what you saw typically the reaction you would desire from the Head Coach of the team you support as a fan?

[Fritz]

I am one of the most criticle Packer fans here and Mike McCarthy.

He simply put can do some really bone headed things. Often he clearly is stubborn to what is happening or slow to adjust.

Of course like we all might I hope that he will grow but Mike McCarthy is what he is and you can count on this. When you need to count on him the most he will let you down.

When Jordy Nelson was possibly removed from action very possibly for the remainder of the playoffs; and immediately after Jordy Nelson was assaulted on the field.

What was Mike McCarthys reaction? Did he call out the Officiating ...demonstrate how pissed off he was?

What did you see happen specifically in terms of Mike McCarthy's reaction to his best WR being mugged and assaulted on the field?

The Packers won 38 - 13, Woody.

[woodbuck27]

The Packers won 38 - 13, Woody.

That was then (or the Final Score in the Giants game).

In terms of Jordy Nelson we are discussing the immediate reaction to his injury; the possible impact of that on the Packers future in these playoffs.