Demovsky - Shields Done in Green Bay

[Smidgeon]

I can't believe you are stating this pb, Burnett is incredibly important to our defence, and hyde has flexibility. I could only support a move on hyde if we could some how get our cb's situatuion solved, but with shields done, it won't be this year I think.

He was being sarcastic or "trolling" in the modern vernacular. Everyone knows how important Hyde was in this game, and by omission, we know how important Burnett was too.

[pbmax]

I can't believe you are stating this pb, Burnett is incredibly important to our defence, and hyde has flexibility. I could only support a move on hyde if we could some how get our cb's situatuion solved, but with shields done, it won't be this year I think.

I wanted red to start ranting about two of his favorite scapegoats.

[red]

I wanted red to start ranting about two of his favorite scapegoats.

i have never been a fan of burnett, i always remember him being about 2 or 3 steps too slow on help all the time

hyde, i don't mind so much

[bobblehead]

i have never been a fan of burnett, i always remember him being about 2 or 3 steps too slow on help all the time

hyde, i don't mind so much

I've never been a burnett fan either, mainly cuz I think he hits like a pussy and early on I thought he made mental mistakes. That being said he is an adequate tackler and to be honest without an overhead view and knowing the coverage calls I couldn't say for sure if he is out of position. The way MM loves his smart guys and loves burnett, I have to believe he isn't out of position very often.

[Upnorth]

I wanted red to start ranting about two of his favorite scapegoats.

whoops, i missed the meaning. mea culpa

[pbmax]

i have never been a fan of burnett, i always remember him being about 2 or 3 steps too slow on help all the time

hyde, i don't mind so much

That is fair, red for Burnett. Skin for Hyde, and he has covered that elsewhere already

[pbmax]

whoops, i missed the meaning. mea culpa

Just stirring the pot I am !

and not helping at all

[Fritz]

Shields's career, in some ways, reminds me of Jermichael Finley's - some moments of brilliance, but injuries and then an injury causing a sudden end.

Sam, we hardly knew ye. But that may be because we were smoking ye's pot and can't remember shit.

[Sparkey]

Nab Zach Cunningham in the 1st of he is there when they pick unless Sydney Jones is available.

[George Cumby]

I'm sorry to hear this but it's not unexpected. I'm mostly sorry cause I don't want the guy to suffer too much in the future.

But what a career. Iirc, he was a UDFA or drafted very low, was a WR in college and was turned into a CB. He got a Super Bowl Ring and played in a ton of meaningful games.

And what a testament to the Packs scouting, coaching and front office.

Sorry to see him go and I hope he's ok.

[gbgary]

we don't need to be cutting ANYONE (except janis lol) without having someone better already in the fold. you don't cut burnett and hyde is just getting better every year. besides we're not remotely close to having to cut someone for monetary reasons.

[gbgary]

Shields's career, in some ways, reminds me of Jermichael Finley's - some moments of brilliance, but injuries and then an injury causing a sudden end.

Sam, we hardly knew ye. But that may be because we were smoking ye's pot and can't remember shit.

i think sam had a much better run than fin.

[run pMc]

Sam had a better run than Fin. Too bad about the concussions, but I'm not surprised. Hell of a player.
Burnett is a keeper.
Hyde is ok...he's not a starter, but he's a swiss army knife type player.
Randall will get better. He's had multiple injuries this year and it's affected both his confidence and performance. I certainly wouldn't write him off as bust...h's made a few good plays this year: the stop vs. JAX and the pick against SEA come to mind. I don't think he's a #1 shutdown CB, but he's worth keeping.

[Pugger]

I don't see much difference between the play of Burnett and Ha-Ha. I think they are pretty equal. Ha-Ha is a big name player and got into the Pro Bowl on name recognition. He's good, but he still has holes in his game.

The defense needs both guys out there. We saw how Dallas started to have success once Burnett left the game.

[KYPack]

I've never been a burnett fan either, mainly cuz I think he hits like a pussy and early on I thought he made mental mistakes. That being said he is an adequate tackler and to be honest without an overhead view and knowing the coverage calls I couldn't say for sure if he is out of position. The way MM loves his smart guys and loves burnett, I have to believe he isn't out of position very often.

Some very savvy Pack fans are posting some things that amaze re: Dix and Burnett. Bobble says Burnett "hits like a pussy" We'd have to get a 12 pack and argue over some all 22 film bc I disagree with you all down the line. Does MB get beat from time to time? Shit yeah, so does Earl Thomas. Burnett takes the back line call (Cover 2, Cover 3, or a rotation) gets the boys lined up and then gets himself in his pre-snap tech. he does a great job of it and does all he can to be the deepest of the deep and be in position. "Hits like a pussy"? Bullshit, he makes a studied effort to be in position to deliver a blow. He usually does that, a form tackle, low hard and clean, not the ESPN highlight licks in the helmet to get on sports center. Ouotes from the lunatic fringies are just fine. Nobody pays any attention to those goofs anyhow

These two boys are good solid hands that get their mates lined up and aggressively make plays. Their pass cover is done well. I'd like to have an Ed Reed (best I've ever seen) back there, too. Shit Nick Collins was on his way to that level of greatness when he went down with a freaky career-ender. Those cats are once in a career type guys. We've got these two guys solid hands back there and need to stay together for a few years. I like 'em and we need to keep them together, working in concert settling shit down in the back 7.

Red? Wait til he gets full of war juice and gets on a rant. He's usually pretty vulnerable then.