and if tretter is gonna cost a ton (close to what lang would cost), then i would stick with lang
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Originally posted by pbmax View PostBill Barnwell's plan of attack in offseason. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page...-nfl-offseason
1. Re-sign Cook and Lang. Makes case for Cook, doesn't for Lang.
2. Re-sign Peppers and DON'T re-sign Perry. Thinks Perry's injury history is more important than last year. But last year is going to net him $10 mil per.
3. Find a cornerback. Maybe even FA. Correctly predicts House getting released by Jags.
4. Find another inside linebacker.
5. Get starting RB like, say, Adrian Peterson.
Eliminate #5, and I concur completely. And now that I think about it, if we could get Peterson for cheap enough or an incentive-laden enough contract, it might be an interesting risk, considering how he bounced back from that previous knee injury and how he thrived so well on the Vikings, he might just be something really special playing with Aaron Rodgers.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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I think AP will do well with whatever new team he ends up with as he is the type to want to prove something. Well as long as said team isn't the Browns.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostEliminate #5, and I concur completely. And now that I think about it, if we could get Peterson for cheap enough or an incentive-laden enough contract, it might be an interesting risk, considering how he bounced back from that previous knee injury and how he thrived so well on the Vikings, he might just be something really special playing with Aaron Rodgers.
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Lang has a lot more miles on his body than Tretter, and his injuries are chronic - they are not going to go away. Lineman can play well into their 30s though so he might have some years left.Originally posted by red View Postand if tretter is gonna cost a ton (close to what lang would cost), then i would stick with lang
Tretter on the other hand has not seen the field much and I don't think is injuries are going to nag/linger. Question is does the dreaded 'injury prone' label apply?--
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I honestly would too...I'm just convinced that Lacy isn't going to want to come back to Green Bay enough to give us a hometown discount, and Ted's too tight to give Lacy market value.Originally posted by red View Posti think i would rather roll the dice on fat eddy getting in shape to be honestIt's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!
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I'd be happy with resigning Cook, Perry, Lang or Tretter; signing a FA CB; drafting OLB, another CB, and RB; maybe get a veteran RB (Lacy, Stewart, Peterson, Charles, Murray) if we can get good value. Top priority is getting CB fixed and restocking OLB."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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The offensive line needs depth especially if Tretter and Lang do not resign. I would think that they would give Barclay a shot at guard, but possibly move Bulaga inside and try Spriggs at Right Tackle.
Then look for the Packers to snag a couple of linemen no sooner than the middle of the draft.
Perry is going to cost an awful lot of money. Based on his production on the last 5 years he isn't worth it, but since the 2015 playoffs he has been a difference maker off the edge. I don't put a lot of faith that a guy like Frackrell is ready to start, and Peppers could be signed for a million bucks but he is no longer a difference maker that has to be accounted for by opposing offenses. Jones has also been a disappointment and the fact they can't find a position for him means he should look to move to a 4-3 defensive scheme as an end. The is a more serious situation that to me is more of an issue than cornerback. They have to get players that can consistently disrupt the passing game.
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our o-line is one of our strengths. would be stupid to go backwards there. perry too. jones is playing a new position and from EVERYTHING i've read they liked what he did there. i'll bet he's resigned. if he isn't that will probably be where the first pick goes.
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Right on. Not sure what will happen with Tretter. He might bee back. Perry.... hope it's reasonable.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View PostThe offensive line needs depth especially if Tretter and Lang do not resign. I would think that they would give Barclay a shot at guard, but possibly move Bulaga inside and try Spriggs at Right Tackle.
Then look for the Packers to snag a couple of linemen no sooner than the middle of the draft.
Perry is going to cost an awful lot of money. Based on his production on the last 5 years he isn't worth it, but since the 2015 playoffs he has been a difference maker off the edge. I don't put a lot of faith that a guy like Frackrell is ready to start, and Peppers could be signed for a million bucks but he is no longer a difference maker that has to be accounted for by opposing offenses. Jones has also been a disappointment and the fact they can't find a position for him means he should look to move to a 4-3 defensive scheme as an end. The is a more serious situation that to me is more of an issue than cornerback. They have to get players that can consistently disrupt the passing game.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Tretter has been done in by three serious injuries, but I am not sure he could be called injury prone. He had a freak accident during a fumble drill in offseason camp his rookie year. He got rolled into this year at Atlanta. His other bad injury was in a preseason game, another knee injury.
Unless those knees are toast, that seems like luck of the draw. So by that logic, I want Tretter signed over Lang. And with Lang having no communication from the team, that still seems to be the Packers way of thinking too. Its not a perfect fit, since if Lang doesn't come back, right guard is wide open.
Thompson isn't clairvoyant, he played the odds with Sitton and it looked like a good bet when he got hurt this year and Taylor did not washout. I think he is making the same calculation here.
As for Perry, here are the top DEs by paycheck at SpotTrac:
Approximate Value is from Pro Football Reference and in this list covers first five years of careers since 2008. Nick Perry's approx. value is 16. He got 6 of that last year.Code:Rank Name AverageSal ApproxValue 1 M Wilkerson $18,000,000 60 2 O Vernon $16,000,000 39 3 J.J. Watt $14,500,000 88 4 E Ansah $12,734,000 32 5 Cam Jordan $12,047,000 42 6 M Bennett $11,268,750 20 7 Rob Quinn $10,750,334 41 8 Mike Daniels $10,400,000 27 9 Cam Heyward $10,400,000 27
He might get stupid money (largely dependent on who doesn't sign or get tendered just prior to FA opening) but its not going to be more than $10.7 mil per year unless he is the only one left standing.Last edited by pbmax; 02-24-2017, 12:52 PM.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Yes, but he still isn't first on the list. There are six other guys who have to get signed before he is the first call. And of those, only Ingram is mentioned at DE/OLB as getting tagged.Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View PostThe thing is, there's one team that does have stupid money, Cleveland. It will be real interesting if they go out and just blow the market up on FAs from playoff teams like the Pack.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Yeah, but Cleveland ain't known for going after the list from the top down. They tend to throw a dart and a list and go after that guy.Originally posted by pbmax View PostYes, but he still isn't first on the list. There are six other guys who have to get signed before he is the first call. And of those, only Ingram is mentioned at DE/OLB as getting tagged.All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!
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