Packers' Off Season Moves and 2017 Roster

[bobblehead]

Wait for the Andre Ellington signing...this is my Randy Starks pick of 2017.

[bobblehead]

Also, the ONE position that still has several quality players available in FA is ILB. And lets face it, our D was so shitty that we can't rule out upgrading ANY position.

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so, with lang officially gone, we have almost 30 million to spend, and really only lacy that we could still bring back

begin the spending on the defense

[wist43]

Also, the ONE position that still has several quality players available in FA is ILB. And lets face it, our D was so shitty that we can't rule out upgrading ANY position.

Problem is, Ted's philosophy is draft and develop; hence, Ted's "upgrades" on defense are already on the roster.

Obviously TT is counting on Ryan, Martinez, Fackrell, Clark, and Lowry making significant strides... of course the problem is that all of those players have shown to have relatively low ceilings. Of that group, Lowry looks to have the most potential, but that isn't saying much.

Clark was wwwwaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy overdrafted, and I'm not expecting much from him - he already looks like a bust. All the rest have pedestrian written all over them.

The Packers as an organization don't really care much about playing good defense - witness who they keep on as their DC year after dismal year. TT did manage to assemble a reasonable amount of defensive talent which peaked a couple of years ago; but, of course, Dunderdummy managed to make a colossal mess of it, and we got bounced from the playoffs in embarrassing fashion once again.

This team will not win another championship as long as TT and Dom are calling the shots in their respective positions.

[gbgary]

Problem is, Ted's philosophy is draft and develop; hence, Ted's "upgrades" on defense are already on the roster.

idk. he's been uncharacteristically bold this week. i'm cautiously optimistic that he'll make a defensive signing.

[yetisnowman]

Remember when the apologist's narrative was that we had to be frugal the last few seasons because we had to keep something in the kitty to re-sign our o-line? Now in less than a year...Sitton, Lang, Tretter....all gone. Hopefully Ted will continue to add pieces on defense to make up for these losses.

[BZnDallas]

Remember when the apologist's narrative was that we had to be frugal the last few seasons because we had to keep something in the kitty to re-sign our o-line? Now in less than a year...Sitton, Lang, Tretter....all gone. Hopefully Ted will continue to add pieces on defense to make up for these losses.

Didn't 2 tackles get new deals? Bulaga and Bahk and now Barclay? Maybe he just wants B last names? Or maybe Linsley getting some coin soon ups the difference 4-3 and TT really just uses money in the kitty to improve the team where he thinks its needed? Like Perry, Bennett, Kendrick to go along with the Oline. I think its silly to think TT is frugal so he can zero in on 1 position to improve. With arguably the best QB in football, i'd prefer to pay my tackles more money than my guards. Maybe thats an apologists way of thinking, but AR can see better in front of him, not both sides of him.

[yetisnowman]

Didn't 2 tackles get new deals? Bulaga and Bahk and now Barclay? Maybe he just wants B last names? Or maybe Linsley getting some coin soon ups the difference 4-3 and TT really just uses money in the kitty to improve the team where he thinks its needed? Like Perry, Bennett, Kendrick to go along with the Oline. I think its silly to think TT is frugal so he can zero in on 1 position to improve. With arguably the best QB in football, i'd prefer to pay my tackles more money than my guards. Maybe thats an apologists way of thinking, but AR can see better in front of him, not both sides of him.

Over the last few years, re-signing guys like Lang and Sitton were major talking points for people ok with us being inactive in free agency. I'm very happy with our tackles being secure, but if this off-season ends up with us keeping Perry, trading Cook for Bennett/Kendicks and losing Lang, Tretter, Hyde, Shields, Starks, Lacy thats sort of frustrating. Now a few moves could turn all that around.

[Joemailman]

Remember when the apologist's narrative was that we had to be frugal the last few seasons because we had to keep something in the kitty to re-sign our o-line? Now in less than a year...Sitton, Lang, Tretter....all gone. Hopefully Ted will continue to add pieces on defense to make up for these losses.

Or maybe he'll just keep drafting really good offensive linemen in the middle rounds. Sitton 4th round, Lang 4th round, Tretter 4th round, Bakhtiari 4th round, Linsley 5th round etc.

[pbmax]

Remember when the apologist's narrative was that we had to be frugal the last few seasons because we had to keep something in the kitty to re-sign our o-line? Now in less than a year...Sitton, Lang, Tretter....all gone. Hopefully Ted will continue to add pieces on defense to make up for these losses.

Yeah, I forgot there are only 3 paying O line positions. 2 Guards and backup Center.

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Or maybe he'll just keep drafting really good offensive linemen in the middle rounds. Sitton 4th round, Lang 4th round, Tretter 4th round, Bakhtiari 4th round, Linsley 5th round etc.

by my count we need 2 of those guys

i'm assuming spriggs is gonna start somewhere

so we need rookies that can step in right away and be a backup and probably start more then a few games because of injuries at G/T and another for C/G

and no, fucking barclay doesn't fit either of those roles imo

[yetisnowman]

Yeah, I forgot there are only 3 paying O line positions. 2 Guards and backup Center.

Are you saying over the years Sitton and Lang were not used as examples of people we needed to save financial room for?

[smuggler]

Or maybe he'll just keep drafting really good offensive linemen in the middle rounds. Sitton 4th round, Lang 4th round, Tretter 4th round, Bakhtiari 4th round, Linsley 5th round etc.

Boom. Guards are not as important as tackles and we still only have one starter slot to fill, with Spriggs waiting in the wings.

[SMBASS]

Personally I don't ever see Spriggs playing guard and I'm on the fence about Murphy playing inside. I wouldn't move Bulaga simply because you don't screw around with moving a competent, upper tier right tackle to play guard. Just find a decent guard whether it's, Patrick, a FA, or a draft pick and plug them into the line. Leave the other 4 components, (Linsley, Taylor, Bulaga, and Bak) alone and find 1 decent/good inside guy. Plus we already have 2 new TE's that have to get into the O-Line mix this year. I hate playing musical chairs with the O-line because it's the damn franchise you're trying to protect. Pressure from the inside is just as likely to get AR killed as pressure from the outside.

[Upnorth]

So we are loosing a 30 year old guard and a backup centre. Last season to drafted their replacementS with spriggs and the other one whose name escapes me. Say we get a mid round ol and Rb. Still can focus the draft on cb, nt and mlb...