Packers' Off Season Moves and 2017 Roster

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lacy got out of seattle without signing, he's on his way to green bay to talk with TT

[Rutnstrut]

Funny how some of you guys have no idea how big of a deal continuity is on the o-line. Sure just plug anyone in at guard, they don't need ay experience or depth. That is until shuffling guys all over gets Rodgers hurt. Because let's face it, if Rodgers goes down for any significant amount of time, this team is toast. Stubby is not a good enough coach to win a lot of games without Rodgers.

[Teamcheez1]

lacy got out of seattle without signing, he's on his way to green bay to talk with TT

If Lacy was all that, he wouldn't have gotten out of Seattle and Minny without a contract. Not saying we shouldn't resign him, but the league is not banging his door down in free agency.

[Joemailman]

Personally I don't ever see Spriggs playing guard and I'm on the fence about Murphy playing inside. I wouldn't move Bulaga simply because you don't screw around with moving a competent, upper tier right tackle to play guard. Just find a decent guard whether it's, Patrick, a FA, or a draft pick and plug them into the line. Leave the other 4 components, (Linsley, Taylor, Bulaga, and Bak) alone and find 1 decent/good inside guy. Plus we already have 2 new TE's that have to get into the O-Line mix this year. I hate playing musical chairs with the O-line because it's the damn franchise you're trying to protect. Pressure from the inside is just as likely to get AR killed as pressure from the outside.

I agree Spriggs isn't a Guard. I'd be reluctant to move Bulaga inside simply because he's coming off maybe his best year. The only reason you would do it is is you feel that Spriggs is definitely one of your top 5 O-Linemen, and you want tp get your top 5 on the field. I think they'll leave Bulaga at RT, and RG will be the big battle of training camp. I know the coaching staff likes Patrick. I think Murphy has the skill set to play Guard if he gets a little stronger. And I expect TT to draft at least 1 O-Lineman.

[wist43]

idk. he's been uncharacteristically bold this week. i'm cautiously optimistic that he'll make a defensive signing.

He signed 2 TE's - and actually improved a position on the roster; yes, that is very uncharacteristic of TT... but don't expect full-blown miracles.

In the last 2 drafts he's drafted Randall, Rollins, Clark, Fackrell, Lowry, Martinez, and Ryan - there's no way in hell he's going to admit that all of those guys, or any of them, are shit, even if they are.

While I would argue that all off those guys - every single one of them is a below average NFL player, TT's "draft and develop" addiction simply won't allow him to call a turd a turd. I seriously doubt any defensive help is on the way. As I said, TT will look at it like the needed help is already on the roster.

Other teams will make moves to improve, and TT will stand pat for the most part. I like Bennett better than Cook, and Kendricks better than any TE we have on the roster - but they can't play defense.

I fully expect our defense to be complete crap again next year... another "1 and done" or embarrassing exit from the playoffs - and Rodgers another year older.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Wist is back? He disappeared at the end of that 8 game winning streak and the victory over Dallas.

[Rutnstrut]

He signed 2 TE's - and actually improved a position on the roster; yes, that is very uncharacteristic of TT... but don't expect full-blown miracles.

In the last 2 drafts he's drafted Randall, Rollins, Clark, Fackrell, Lowry, Martinez, and Ryan - there's no way in hell he's going to admit that all of those guys, or any of them, are shit, even if they are.

While I would argue that all off those guys - every single one of them is a below average NFL player, TT's "draft and develop" addiction simply won't allow him to call a turd a turd. I seriously doubt any defensive help is on the way. As I said, TT will look at it like the needed help is already on the roster.

Other teams will make moves to improve, and TT will stand pat for the most part. I like Bennett better than Cook, and Kendricks better than any TE we have on the roster - but they can't play defense.

I fully expect our defense to be complete crap again next year... another "1 and done" or embarrassing exit from the playoffs - and Rodgers another year older.

I pretty much agree, but I do think clark will be pretty decent. So he will probably get hurt for a full season this year.

[King Friday]

another "1 and done" or embarrassing exit from the playoffs - and Rodgers another year older.

We weren't one and done last year Wist...if you were around, you'd have known that. Unfortunately, the Packers kicked you right in the sack going down the stretch this season and you apparently got laid up somewhere. Hope you are feeling better.

[wist43]

Wist is back? He disappeared at the end of that 8 game winning streak and the victory over Dallas.

"Disappeared" long before that... changed jobs, and our 3rd kid is wearing me out now. Simply don't have time to do much of anything but work and tend to the family. Things are settling out a little bit though, so maybe I can watch a little football this year...

Bought some new golf clubs... my brother laughed and said I was waaaayyyyy too optimistic, lol...

[wist43]

We weren't one and done last year Wist...if you were around, you'd have known that. Unfortunately, the Packers kicked you right in the sack going down the stretch this season and you apparently got laid up somewhere. Hope you are feeling better.

Try to keep up KF... the "or" is in there

[wist43]

I pretty much agree, but I do think clark will be pretty decent. So he will probably get hurt for a full season this year.

I almost don't think it matters how much talent they have on defense... Capers is our DC, and will be for next 832 years. He's a disaster. 2-4 is our base defense, and we don't have the personnel to play it well... our defense has no identity, and we're routinely and habitually outcoached. Simply put - the game has passed Capers by, and he needs to retire... of course he isn't going anywhere.

TT can work to improve the offense all he wants, but our problems are - as always - on defense. This organization will never get it figured out.

[pbmax]

Are you saying over the years Sitton and Lang were not used as examples of people we needed to save financial room for?

Sure. A decent franchise will always have some flexibility to sign their own to new deals and not mortgage the future entirely.

But circumstances change. Both were hampered by injuries and Sitton may have been a pain in his coaches behind. So between age, injury history and market value, you adjust. You put a price of $7 mil per year on Lang, knowing that might be the low end and if he goes elsewhere, you spend money elsewhere.

You give Sitton's money to your young left tackle and make it possible to sign both your OLB and others.

Every dime they did not spend on past FAs and new contracts during those Guards second contracts is available to them this year. And it might get spent yet this offseason.

[pbmax]

lacy got out of seattle without signing, he's on his way to green bay to talk with TT

He is also out of Minnesota and headed to GB.

[BZnDallas]

Funny how some of you guys have no idea how big of a deal continuity is on the o-line. Sure just plug anyone in at guard, they don't need ay experience or depth. That is until shuffling guys all over gets Rodgers hurt. Because let's face it, if Rodgers goes down for any significant amount of time, this team is toast. Stubby is not a good enough coach to win a lot of games without Rodgers.

We ALL understand and are aware of what happens if AR goes down Rut. See in this sport, there is only so much money to spend. Its called a salary cap. That means you can't keep everyone you want. At some point you have to let players walk. Think you'd be hard pressed to find anybody here that didn't like Lang. The most of us realize its part of the game to lose players you like. Even the vaunted Cowboy line is having to make changes this off season. Oh no! The continuity! We'll all get over it, will you?

[pbmax]

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Mentioned yesterday that House won't be signing with Packers. He's in Pittsburgh. My guess is he won't leave without a contract.