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  • #46
    Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    To some extent, that's my point - he's the best we have (thanks Ted for that). He was "abused" more when we were in zone than man coverage, although obviously he got beat straight up sometimes too.
    I don't think it's being overly dramatic to say that Gunter and the whole crew got beat every which way but loose this year. If they could man up with any reliability they wouldn't have been playing the soft zone with safeties over the top so much - which they couldn't play either.

    Normally with this team, these types of problems have gotten fixed. We'll see.

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    • #47
      No, normally with this team, these types of problems have NOT gotten fixed - THAT is the whole point about Ted Thompson.
      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
        No, normally with this team, these types of problems have NOT gotten fixed - THAT is the whole point about Ted Thompson.
        What are the recurring "problems" that haven't been fixed?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
          No, normally with this team, these types of problems have NOT gotten fixed - THAT is the whole point about Ted Thompson.
          Tight End: Cook

          Inside Linebacker: Martinez, Ryan

          S: Ha Ha Clinton Dix, whom you will not be able to contact until later this week as he is playing in the Pro Bowl

          RB (youth and speed): Pressley, Michael

          WR (depth after last year): Geronimo


          It took a while to make safety a strong suit after Collins went down but it did get fixed. And does anyone remember the other guy people were clamoring for in Dix's draft? Tight End looks as promising as it has since Finley lost his hands and mind in his contract year. Inside linebacker is still a jury out situation, but they were part of a very good run defense early and Martinez and Thomas can both cover better than anyone they have had inside since Barnett.

          RB was a big problem this year but Thompson spent some resources looking for the rarest of all things in GB, speed at RB.

          And tell me Geronimo doesn't make you happier about the WR group if one has to be shed due to age or contract*.


          * People are now making noise that Cobb or Nelson will need to take a paycut to stay in GB for much longer. My money is they both finish out their deals. The offseason is replete with stories about cap casualties in GB, and almost none of them come true. The last one was Hawk, who did have to take a reduced deal.
          Last edited by pbmax; 01-29-2017, 09:54 AM.
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          • #50
            If the Packers miss the playoffs or even go into the playoffs next year with the same guys getting beat with the same frequency, I'll be first in line on the Ted Bashing machine. The whole world pretty much can see where and why the Packers came up short in the NFC Championship game.

            But what happened this year at cornerback was realistically unforseeable, and if you think Ole Cromartie would have been the answer and a good fit for this team then I'm not sure what to say about that.

            Anyone who argued that Hayward should have been re-signed last offseason has a credible argument - but I don't recall many who weren't saying "Those knees and hamstrings - how many million? Plus we have Rollins and Randall ready to step in.... Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out".

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            • #51
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              Tight End: Cook

              Inside Linebacker: Martinez, Ryan

              S: Ha Ha Clinton Dix, whom you will not be able to contact until later this week as he is playing in the Pro Bowl

              RB (youth and speed): Pressley, Michael

              WR (depth after last year): Geronimo

              Who is Pressley?
              I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                Who is Pressley?
                Jhurell Pressley
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                  Tight End: Cook

                  Inside Linebacker: Martinez, Ryan

                  S: Ha Ha Clinton Dix, whom you will not be able to contact until later this week as he is playing in the Pro Bowl

                  RB (youth and speed): Pressley, Michael

                  WR (depth after last year): Geronimo


                  It took a while to make safety a strong suit after Collins went down but it did get fixed. And does anyone remember the other guy people were clamoring for in Dix's draft? Tight End looks as promising as it has since Finley lost his hands and mind in his contract year. Inside linebacker is still a jury out situation, but they were part of a very good run defense early and Martinez and Thomas can both cover better than anyone they have had inside since Barnett.

                  RB was a big problem this year but Thompson spent some resources looking for the rarest of all things in GB, speed at RB.

                  And tell me Geronimo doesn't make you happier about the WR group if one has to be shed due to age or contract*.


                  * People are now making noise that Cobb or Nelson will need to take a paycut to stay in GB for much longer. My money is they both finish out their deals. The offseason is replete with stories about cap casualties in GB, and almost none of them come true. The last one was Hawk, who did have to take a reduced deal.
                  hahahahaha Speaking of HaHa, he's good, but not on the Nick Collins level. I'll give you Cook, for sure. Martinez and Ryan are gonna need to get a helluva lot better to be adequate at ILB. Pressley? You're kidding, right? They cut several players better than him. Michael I like, but we're gonna have to wait and see if there were good reasons why Seattle gave up on him that are gonna bite us too. I don't buy that he is "dumb as a rock", but the accusation has been made. And Geronimo? One thing (maybe the only thing) Ted is good for is UDFAs, and it seems to me that the reason why is going for players there who are completely the opposite of the kind he drafts - Gunter, Elliot, Shields, etc.

                  I agree with you about Nelson and Cobb. Both shaped up nicely toward the end of the season.

                  There have been various other problems, though, in recent years that haven't been solved at all.
                  What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by vince View Post
                    The sophomore slump of these three DB's was remarkable this year. Look at those passer ratings against. It's like every QB that threw against them was Aaron Rodgers caliber. Rollins was particularly putrid after being borderline stellar as a rook.



                    The Packers need to solve their secondary issues this offseason.


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