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[gbgary]

A la Atl's DBs as well. Remember Adams' exposed shoulder pad on a route early in the game showing that the refs weren't going to be calling much.

yup...that's why i advocated we do the same thing early in the season with our inexperienced dbs. sea has lived on this style for several years now. jam and hold works if the refs don't call it...and if they do call it keep doing it. teams are catching on (except the Packers) and i think you'll see most teams (except the Packers) employ it.

[Maxie the Taxi]

yup...that's why i advocated we do the same thing early in the season with our inexperienced dbs. sea has lived on this style for several years now. jam and hold works if the refs don't call it...and if they do call it keep doing it. teams are catching on (except the Packers) and i think you'll see most teams (except the Packers) employ it.

From what I remember (which isn't much lol) Gunter did his share against Dallas and Atlanta.

[Zool]

From what I remember (which isn't much lol) Gunter did his share against Dallas and Atlanta.

He did a lot in the first 5 but the arm grabbing as WRs run by you is a fairly new phenomenon. Like the Packers O line holding the top of the shoulder pads.

[bobblehead]

From what I remember (which isn't much lol) Gunter did his share against Dallas and Atlanta.

And from what I remember (which ain't much) Devon House in the SF game...wait, what was I talking about. Where am I. Shit!

[ThunderDan]

A long field goal attempt is not a great option. You don't want to risk giving N.E. the ball with good field position. I didn't blame Atlanta for passing to get the ball down near the 20. They had enough time to use several quicker passes - but maybe defense was playing tight.

It was 1 and 10 at the 22 yard line. That is a 39 yard FG.

[mmmdk]

It was 1 and 10 at the 22 yard line. That is a 39 yard FG.

Brutal fact, just brutal.

[hoosier]

It was 1 and 10 at the 22 yard line. That is a 39 yard FG.

You have to remember that Harlan's views are still colored by his formative years in the 70s when extra points were an adventure and anyone making more than 50% of his field goals was in the running for Pro Bowl honors.

[Pugger]

You do know that ATL won the opening coin toss and deferred, right? What are you even trying to get at?

He's probably talking about us deferring in the NFCC game 2 weeks ago.

[Pugger]

Nothing could be more painful than what just happened to Atlanta

You really have to wonder if that will haunt them for a while and they'll struggle in 2017 just like Carolina did last year.

[Pugger]

it all came down to that sack. ryan CAN'T take that sack. elite arm but mid-tier brain.

Another big play for NE was earlier when the RB missed the block and Ryan fumbled after getting hit on the blindside. NE only has short field and scores to get back into the game. I think this was a bigger turning point than that sack later on.

[Pugger]

Maybe I am confused, but the RB who missed a blitz block was the strip sack. Ryan sacked inside Patriot territory late was a D lineman who beat Mack up the middle I think.

Or maybe I just dreamed this.

I thought it was Freeman who missed that block...?

[gbgary]

Another big play for NE was earlier when the RB missed the block and Ryan fumbled after getting hit on the blindside. NE only has short field and scores to get back into the game. I think this was a bigger turning point than that sack later on.

yup...huge play. but...it didn't determine the game like the coach not running 3 runs and kicking a fg. they had at least 3 points in the bag, which would have made it an eleven point lead, with what...3.5 minutes left? deciding to pass, when there was no reason, and taking a sack, being forced to try to pass again and getting a holding penalty, lost it for them. this was the only time the whole season where someone got to the 22 and had to punt. coach had no situational awareness.

I thought it was Freeman who missed that block...?

no. on the 4 qtr sack, mentioned above, it was the lineman mack.

[Pugger]

gbgary, that strip sack of Ryan and subsequent fumble changed the tenor of the game and gave NE a huge boost in momentum. I think it was Freeman who missed the block on this play and not the sack in the 4th quarter.

[Bretsky]

MM wins that game for ATL if he is the head coach. Why the fuck is ATL passing with 4 minutes left in the game up 8 when they are already in FG range? Horrible.

agree; while we sometimes hate MM's lack of killer instinct....he plays the odds, numbers and clock. MM runs three times there and Crosby makes a FG. Atlanta went for the throat and it failed them

[Maxie the Taxi]

Even Birdie Tebbetts wins that game for Atlanta. lol