JS-----IS LACY WORTH THE WEIGHT ???

[red]

i bet theres more then you think, is what i was trying to get at

[BZnDallas]

If you're saying most regular human beings then I would most definitely have to disagree with you Tex. I know plenty of regular people that can run fast. Most high school and college sports players could outrun Gilbert and BJ. Think of HS soccer clubs, or track teams, or any number of sports. These kids grow up to be regular people. But in their prime, Big Gil and BJ prolly don't have much of a chance. Now if you're saying Gilbert and BJ are faster than most of the people in this forum, then I think I'd definitely have to agree with you. I was certainly no burner growing up. I did have pretty fast hands on the basketball court for a big man, and a pretty nice fastball while dropping a couple bombs in little league. Football was average and thats was about the extent of my athletic prime.

[yetisnowman]

I said ALMOST none - maybe you're the exception that proves the rule. I'm just saying I doubt most regular human beings in their prime could outrun let's say Gilbert Brown or B.J. Raji in their prime in the 40. I know we have (or had) a shutdown Corner who dominated Darren Charles in H.S. in here, and you, red, but most of the rest of us, I doubt it.

I'm almost 35 and I could outrun a 20 year old BJ RAJI no problem. I ran a sub 4.5 once in high school. I'd venture to say most if not all post pubescent young males can beat a 5.5 easily as long as they aren't obese or uncoordinated. 5.5 is really slow.

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Yeah, for those that have never run, or never run against a clock. 5.5 isn't that hard to do at all

[gbgary]

deion sanders says now that he's the fastest regular guy on the planet.

[ThunderDan]

Rich Eisen in a suit ran a 5.94 at the combine last year.

[red]

Rich Eisen in a suit ran a 5.94 at the combine last year.

at almost 50 years old and a guy that doesn't look like he works out much, and in a suit like you said

plus, it never looks like the guy has ever run before when he does that, it looks so un-natural

[texaspackerbacker]

Rich Eisen in a suit ran a 5.94 at the combine last year.

This has a lot more credibility than the outlandish claims of some in here. The article says he was challenged by Terrell Davis, so I assume it was tested by somebody that knew what they were doing and was well documented. It also shows that the 5.94 was his best time at age 47. He had been doing this for ten years with times as bad as 6.77 at age 37.

Doing the math, 40 yards/120 feet. A 4.5 time is about 27 feet per second. That means 2.7 feet per tenth of a second. So you guys claiming you could do 4.5 or so 40s, you're saying you could stay within 3 or 4 feet for 40 yards of the fastest NFL players?

[pbmax]

This has a lot more credibility than the outlandish claims of some in here. The article says he was challenged by Terrell Davis, so I assume it was tested by somebody that knew what they were doing and was well documented. It also shows that the 5.94 was his best time at age 47. He had been doing this for ten years with times as bad as 6.77 at age 37.

Doing the math, 40 yards/120 feet. A 4.5 time is about 27 feet per second. That means 2.7 feet per tenth of a second. So you guys claiming you could do 4.5 or so 40s, you're saying you could stay within 3 or 4 feet for 40 yards of the fastest NFL players?

He is running in a suit with dress shoes on.

I am going to bet that wing tips are good for -1 second.

[bobblehead]

Rich Eisen in a suit ran a 5.94 at the combine last year.

Assuming in sneakers at least, all though I am mildly impressed. I sometimes get stuck doing 3 flights of stairs in a suit and it blows.

As to tex point I would agree if i remember it right. I would say less than 1% of the population could run a 4.50 at their peak.

Now saying Raji and Gilby could outrun most is a stretch, but a Tony Mandrich...probably.

[bobblehead]

This has a lot more credibility than the outlandish claims of some in here. The article says he was challenged by Terrell Davis, so I assume it was tested by somebody that knew what they were doing and was well documented. It also shows that the 5.94 was his best time at age 47. He had been doing this for ten years with times as bad as 6.77 at age 37.

Doing the math, 40 yards/120 feet. A 4.5 time is about 27 feet per second. That means 2.7 feet per tenth of a second. So you guys claiming you could do 4.5 or so 40s, you're saying you could stay within 3 or 4 feet for 40 yards of the fastest NFL players?

Not the way it works. 40 is about acceleration as Red says. The last 5-10 yards are MUCH faster than the first 5-10. I was an acceleration guy as well. During indoor track I ran the 60 (only 2 meets each year I recall), but outdoor 4 guys beat me in the 100.

[bobblehead]

I encourage everyone to go out and run the 40 right now. Post your times. I'm running mine in suit though, no way Eisen is gonna one up me dammit.

[Joemailman]

I encourage everyone to go out and run the 40 right now. Post your times. I'm running mine in suit though, no way Eisen is gonna one up me dammit.

Not with my hamstrings. Unless you want to see a good imitation of a felled deer.

[hoosier]

I would like to start a Go Fund Me to send Tex to the Carnegie Science Center in Pittsburgh. They have a new, way-cool sports annex where you can, among many other things, run a virtual race against an Olympic sprinter for about the first 20 yards. (Not clear if the sprinter you're racing against is a slow starter like Usain Bolt or a fast starter, slow closer like most of the rest of them). Tex will be surprised to see how close the average healthy person is to an Olympic pace for the first 20. A few tenths of a second, give or take, isn't out of the question.

[red]

I encourage everyone to go out and run the 40 right now. Post your times. I'm running mine in suit though, no way Eisen is gonna one up me dammit.

not a chance, i can't imagine how many muscles i'd pull or hips i'd break trying to do that.

as for general population, i think tex said most on here couldn't run under a 5.5 in the prime, not 4.5, i think a decent % could run a 5.5 in their prime if you ever played sports or had a clue how to run without falling down