2017 NFL Combine

[Deputy Nutz]

Maybe Ted comes away with the feeling that Peppers is a must have talent if available at 29, but safety is the one position I have limited concerns about. Safety and most tackle actually.

He is a talent, but where is the defensive fit? He is an upgrade talent wise for the Packer defense. I could see this just being the most important aspect of this draft is just finding better talent and finding a position to upgrade, but he isn't an edge rusher, and he isn't a cornerback.

[pbmax]

I could see Watt or similar if you don't resign Perry.

[gbgary]

why not resign perry AND draft watt (or some other kick ass olb)? lateral moves don't get us anywhere.

[Pugger]

It looks like this DB class is as good as advertised. This is the right year to need a CB...

[pbmax]

why not resign perry AND draft watt (or some other kick ass olb)? lateral moves don't get us anywhere.

There are other needs and options. Jones and Peppers could be signed for Perry's contract. Frees up money for Lang or Tretter.

Late first round ass rush is a crap shoot. You can find it but busts at better than 50%. Like a CB there better depending on how things break.

[gbgary]

There are other needs and options. Jones and Peppers could be signed for Perry's contract. Frees up money for Lang or Tretter.

Late first round pass rush is a crap shoot. You can find it but busts at better than 50%. Like a CB there better depending on how things break.

but perry is better than either one of those guys.

[pbmax]

but perry is better than either one of those guys.

Yeah, but more expensive an Jones plus Peppers gives you some depth and less injury worries.

I honestly don't know if I would sign Perry to the deal he is about to get. Good chance at buyer's remorse if he continues to get injured. Matthews in that place now.

[red]

but perry is better than either one of those guys.

when healthy

which is about 10% of his time in the nfl, so far

[gbgary]

when healthy

which is about 10% of his time in the nfl, so far

his hand got stepped on.

[red]

his hand got stepped on.

yup, somehow in a contract year he was able to play through an injury for once

think he'll play next year if he gets the same injury?

[gbgary]

yup, somehow in a contract year he was able to play through an injury for once

think he'll play next year if he gets the same injury?

yes. it's obvious this locker room has some strong personalities that understand where the Packers are. what it takes to advance. several guys played hurt last year. he's coming of age. he's gotten better every year. now let him go? no. Packers have to get better, not worse. who'd you replace him with?

[pbmax]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18847089/why-take-combine-numbers-grain-salt

The Boldin Paradox: Why the Combine doesn't produce outright numbers that correlate to success in an NFL career.

[Deputy Nutz]

Holy Balls! Looking at the combine numbers on some of these cornerbacks and they are very intriguing to say the least. There is speed and size throughout this draft class. The Packers or any other team that is in need of a outside coverage should have some spittle at the edge of their mouths, you Ted already does.

Guys that stand out per their numbers at the combine

Jaylen Myrick minnesota
5'10" 200lbs
4.28 40
37.5 vert
If the Packers don't want to spend a first round pick on a corner he might be available late in the second round but he probably isn't going to last to the end of the third round. He excels in man coverage and his knock is his lack of height. He might fit well as a inside cover guy. his 3 cone was a bit average just over 7 seconds. He is also a return guy. Not a big impact in the run game, sort of got man handled by bigger receivers but he plays alot of man coverage

Fabian Moreau UCLA
6'0" 206lbs
4.35 40
38" vert
He is a man on man defender, he looks good covering the outside receiver. Not much in terms of run support. I think he is a better football player than Myrick. Reads routes really well, good instincts. Packers would probably have to take him in the first round

Kevin King Washington
6-3 200
4.43 40
39.5 vert
Great speed and jump, under 4 seconds on his shuttle. His numbers and height are the first thing you notice and you really want to like him. He doesn't have the greatest instincts, and he is pretty grabby with his hands. he seems unsure of himself when in zone, and his instincts hinder him at times when he is man coverage.

Ahkello Witherspoon Colorado
6-3 198
4.45 40
40.5" vert
This guy on film can run with John Ross. He is a crap tackler and doesn't want to partake in the run game, but he has the height, speed, and jumping ability to play the outside and match up against bigger wide receiver in the NFL. Witherspoon could fit nicely in Green Bay but the Packers would have to use a 1st round pick to solidify him coming to Green Bay. Some team could scoop him up in the second round because of his size and jumping ability. That type of combination doesn't last long in drafts, teams are willing to take a risk to protect against the jump ball down field.

Brian Allen Utah
6-3 215
4.48 40
34.5" vert
Can't find a highlight or game film on him on youtube, but I am intrigued with his size and speed. His vertical jump is about average or below but the height helps out

[KYPack]

Good job, Nutz

Everybody is raving about this year's CB draft class.

MB we can snag one of 'em.

[Fritz]

One? Let's grab one at the high end of the draft, and then go get another one in the fifth round. And maybe this time not guys who played lacrosse last year.