TJ Lang goes to Lions

[pbmax]

Lang is getting $9.5M average for 3 years with $19M fully guaranteed. No way Ted matches that.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 52m52 minutes ago
G T.J. Lang received a three-year, $28.5 million deal with $19M fully guaranteed, according to source.

Rob Demovsky @RobDemovsky
Was told Packers best offer wasn't close: 3 years, $21.5M with $6.5M guaranteed. Lang would have stayed if it was close. Clearly it wasn't

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damn, lots of coin

can't let guys you want to keep hit free agency

[smuggler]

They guaranteed $20 mil. He's a good player, but I don't see him as a $9.5 mil/year guy. Still, another whole to fill. Likely a 3rd round comp pick, and at least a 4th.

[red]

They guaranteed $20 mil. He's a good player, but I don't see him as a $9.5 mil/year guy. Still, another whole to fill. Likely a 3rd round comp pick, and at least a 4th.

that 20 million guaranteed could be mostly bull shit

gotta see the numbers

most teams will consider everything involved in the first 2 years to be guaranteed, because they just signed the guy, they plan on keeping him

so a guy with a salary of 3 million his first year, with a 2 million dollar roster bonus in year one, plus a 3 million dollar salary in year 2 with a 3 million dollar roster bonus, plus just a 9 million dollar signing bonus, becomes 20 million "guaranteed

smoke and mirrors, i bet when the end numbers come out, its not gonna be that much more then green bay offered him

green bay could have played the same gme by saying bennetts deal was a 3 year 21 million dollar deal with 14.5 million "guaranteed"

[Rutnstrut]

TT fucked up AGAIN, big shocker there. He lets Tretter and Lang go, Yet signs two TE's that they will never use to their potential.

[falco]

TT fucked up AGAIN, big shocker there. He lets Tretter and Lang go, Yet signs two TE's that they will never use to their potential.

[King Friday]

TT fucked up AGAIN, big shocker there. He lets Tretter and Lang go, Yet signs two TE's that they will never use to their potential.

Care to cite the number of spectacular 30 year old offensive guard free agency signings in recent years?

$9M a year for a 30 year old guard is way too steep of a price. It was wise to not pay that kind of money for Lang, even if he was a good player. Overspending for anyone is what kills you with the salary cap.

[RashanGary]

We'll see how it goes

[Rutnstrut]

Care to cite the number of spectacular 30 year old offensive guard free agency signings in recent years?

$9M a year for a 30 year old guard is way too steep of a price. It was wise to not pay that kind of money for Lang, even if he was a good player. Overspending for anyone is what kills you with the salary cap.

We will see if you feel that way when a patch work line gets Rodgers hurt.

[Zool]

[Pugger]

We will see if you feel that way when a patch work line gets Rodgers hurt.

This sounds just like what we heard when Sitton was released and Lane Taylor stepped in - Rodgers is going to get killed without our Pro-Bowl LG. I'll be surprised if Lang lasts as long as the contract he just signed.

[Guiness]

that 20 million guaranteed could be mostly bull shit

gotta see the numbers

most teams will consider everything involved in the first 2 years to be guaranteed, because they just signed the guy, they plan on keeping him

so a guy with a salary of 3 million his first year, with a 2 million dollar roster bonus in year one, plus a 3 million dollar salary in year 2 with a 3 million dollar roster bonus, plus just a 9 million dollar signing bonus, becomes 20 million "guaranteed

smoke and mirrors, i bet when the end numbers come out, its not gonna be that much more then green bay offered him

green bay could have played the same gme by saying bennetts deal was a 3 year 21 million dollar deal with 14.5 million "guaranteed"

You might be right, and the 'real' money is closer to what the Packers offered. If the announced numbers are anywhere near accurate, it sounds like a market setting deal. Sitton got 3yrs/$21 million with a $2M bonus, long way from these numbers. These numbers could be inflated, but this contract could also be similar to Marco Riveria's final deal.

[pbmax]

Not going to lie, was firmly convinced Lane Taylor was the sky falling.

[Bossman641]

Lang's deal -- reportedly three years for $28.5 million with $19 million guaranteed -- is in line with the averages for players like Warford and Ronald Leary, but the Lions had to pay extra in terms of guarantees to win over Lang. He got more in guarantees than Warford ($17 million) and nearly as much as Leary ($20 million) despite the fact that they each picked up four-year deals. No other guard in football with a multiyear, non-rookie contract has more than 52 percent of their contact guaranteed. Lang is at 66.7 percent, making it likely he'll see all three years of this deal.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/Barnwellx2017FAgrades/bill-barnwell-grades-big-2017-free-agent-deals-nfl

[texaspackerbacker]

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 52m52 minutes ago
G T.J. Lang received a three-year, $28.5 million deal with $19M fully guaranteed, according to source.

Rob Demovsky @RobDemovsky
Was told Packers best offer wasn't close: 3 years, $21.5M with $6.5M guaranteed. Lang would have stayed if it was close. Clearly it wasn't

If these numbers are correct, Ted was right to let him go. Congrats to Lang for skinning the Lions. I think we will be OK in the O Line whichever way it goes - Bulaga at guard and Spriggs starting sounds good. It's Aaron Rodgers' mobility that makes all these guys seem better anyway.