malcom butler...

[gbgary]

nfl-rumors-malcolm-butler

didn't sign his tender so he's free. would have to give up a 1st round pick for him. they have plenty to get it done. they should do it. if they don't dallas will find a way to do it.

[texaspackerbacker]

I was and still am hoping for the Packers to grab a quality FA Corner, but this restricted FA thing and giving up a first round pick is too much. I think Amukumara and Bouye and maybe a couple of others are still out there. Better to go that route. Butler may have been not quite as good as his stats due to having a lot of quality around him on the Pats.

[BZnDallas]

Think the Butler/Antonio Brown commercial is hilarious. I'd have to do some serious consideration about trading for him. Is our first founder even good enough. The saints first rounder was waaay before ours. If its just our 1? I think about it. Anything more and I'm out. And that's without looking at his contract so that could sway my thought process.

[smuggler]

Both are already signed. Amukamara signed a 1 year, $7mil deal with the Bears. Bouye signed a huge deal with the Jags.

As for the restricted tender status, the Patriots would have right of first refusal to assume any contract he signed with us. As far as the 1st round pick compensation, any first round pick fulfills that requirement. If we had the 1st overall, the 13th overall, AND the 32nd overall, we could send the 32nd and it would fulfill the compensation requirement. The only option they have with respect to refusal is if they want to match the contract. If not, they'll take 29 and have to smile.

[BZnDallas]

*rounder not founder

Sorry typing on my phone

[Upnorth]

1st rounder Plus the big contract he will expect... I don't know. Why not go with Coleman who is great in nickle... Big contract but no loss of 1st rounder

[gbgary]

idk...it fixes our #1 problem with a proven #1 from a great team, not fodder left over from a team that gets torched deep every game like dallas (clayborn/carr). it gives us some flexibility with our 1st pick THIS year to go at best-player-available, he's young, and again...money isn't a problem.

[bobblehead]

Not TT's style, but at the rate 1st rounders flop, and ours being all the way at the end, I would at least talk to him and see what he wants. I get that if its reasonable NE will match it, but you could try to poison pill it.

We need a bonafide #1 CB to drop the coverages of the other guys down the depth chart. It solves a huge problem. I wouldn't cry if TT did it...say a shields type contract.

[Pugger]

Not TT's style, but at the rate 1st rounders flop, and ours being all the way at the end, I would at least talk to him and see what he wants. I get that if its reasonable NE will match it, but you could try to poison pill it.

We need a bonafide #1 CB to drop the coverages of the other guys down the depth chart. It solves a huge problem. I wouldn't cry if TT did it...say a shields type contract.

Yes, I just don't see Ted giving up a first round pick for a FA.

[gbgary]

Yes, I just don't see Ted giving up a first round pick for a FA.

but ted is being the un-ted this year and it's not like our 1st round pick next year is going to be in the top 10.

[Carolina_Packer]

The more I think about giving up a first rounder for an established corner who can cover another team's number 1 WR, the more I would think about it if I were in TT's shoes. If you look at this article http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftology408_1.php it shows the success/bust rate of first rounders and has a link for second rounders too. I know the data is kind of old, but I'm guessing if someone did a more recent study, they would find it to be a similar success rate. It may be a risky move, but so could it be to not risk anything when you know Butler is going to be a stud for some team.

Bring him in and Connor Barwin and now you're cooking with heat.

[texaspackerbacker]

After reading the page of remarks, I'm gonna flip flop and come out in favor of signing Butler. Ya got a green light, Ted.

[red]

idk...it fixes our #1 problem with a proven #1 from a great team, not fodder left over from a team that gets torched deep every game like dallas (clayborn/carr). it gives us some flexibility with our 1st pick THIS year to go at best-player-available, he's young, and again...money isn't a problem.

how would we have flexibility with our 1st round pick, if new england has it?

[gbgary]

how would we have flexibility with our 1st round pick, if new england has it?

we'd still have this year's pick. they'd get next years. even if i'm wrong and it's the first pick in the upcoming draft it would be worth it as no cb of his quality will be there when we pick.

[Rutnstrut]

TT would give up all of the salary cap before he would give up any draft picks, much less a first rounder.