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Players make the scheme. Schemes do not make players. He was drafted as an answer at 5 technique and never really showed out. They tried him at OLB and that wasn't a significant improvement. At some point when playing football, you either win one on ones or you don't. First rounders are supposed to win one on ones more consistently. I thought he would be better than he turned out to be for the Packers. First rounders should not be "meh". I hope his production remains consistent with his new team.Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View PostA change of scenery was probably in order. He is considered another first round bust in my book, never living up to expectations or improving all that much."Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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I won't be surprised if Jones ends up playing better for the Vikings as a 4-3 DE on a faster turf surface. I think he was miscast as a 5-tech DE because he wasn't strong/heavy enough and he had no business trying to play as a 3-4 OLB in space. I never really liked him as a #1 pick but I hoped that he would find a spot and become productive. I just never thought he was a good fit for a 3-4 D. He had the ability to apply some pressure and get close but he never seemed to be able to close the deal and get the sack. He was also notorious for committing a stupid penalty for what seemed like just about every game.
Hard to believe he's already had 4 years with the Pack. Where in the hell did that time go so quickly? Maybe it doesn't seem like he's been here that long because he never really did much of any consequence.Last edited by SMBASS; 03-14-2017, 05:36 PM.
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Where does the fault lie in Datone's failure to live up to expectations? Personal commitment? Coaching? Scheme? Evidently the Vikings see something the Packers haven't been able to unearth and develop. He has demonstrated the physical talent to play defense whether his hand is in the dirt or not. Yes, he has committed some bone headed mistakes in critical situations - but what is the root cause? He is pretty well educated in the school sense, what kept him back in the football reality?Originally posted by Carolina_Packer View PostPlayers make the scheme. Schemes do not make players. He was drafted as an answer at 5 technique and never really showed out. They tried him at OLB and that wasn't a significant improvement. At some point when playing football, you either win one on ones or you don't. First rounders are supposed to win one on ones more consistently. I thought he would be better than he turned out to be for the Packers. First rounders should not be "meh". I hope his production remains consistent with his new team.
So he's off to the Vikings. My feeling is Mike Zimmer realizes the real possibilities and will develop Datone into a defensive asset the Packers just plain missed.
Just who is in charge of developing the Packers defensive players and scheme?
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I thought he looked better in 2016. Didn't realize it was a contract year.
I feel like the Packers did develop the guy - just in time for him to leave.
The joke is on NFL fans who follow these annual pickup teams as if the players were somehow attached to their city.
Guess I'll feel better if Lacy gets dumped, but Ted will probably keep the only guy I'm tired of looking at.
Fuck this world and all the stupid people in it.
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So they'll do to Datone what we already did with Guion? At least when Guion's on the field and not serving a suspension. Grrrr.Originally posted by QBME View PostWhere does the fault lie in Datone's failure to live up to expectations? Personal commitment? Coaching? Scheme? Evidently the Vikings see something the Packers haven't been able to unearth and develop. He has demonstrated the physical talent to play defense whether his hand is in the dirt or not. Yes, he has committed some bone headed mistakes in critical situations - but what is the root cause? He is pretty well educated in the school sense, what kept him back in the football reality?
So he's off to the Vikings. My feeling is Mike Zimmer realizes the real possibilities and will develop Datone into a defensive asset the Packers just plain missed.
Just who is in charge of developing the Packers defensive players and scheme?Now what y'all know about dem Texas boys
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Good call Smuggler. I hate that I like Zimmer. He just seems like a good dude. Took too damn long for him to get a HC gig. Sucks its with the Vikings. I do live in Dallas so there is some history here and a mini love fest depending on who you talk to.Now what y'all know about dem Texas boys
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evidently the vikes don't like him too much. a number of them went to him and told him he was fucking up and how to fix it. turner quit. remember when they ignored his defensive call(s)?Originally posted by BZnDallas View PostGood call Smuggler. I hate that I like Zimmer. He just seems like a good dude. Took too damn long for him to get a HC gig. Sucks its with the Vikings. I do live in Dallas so there is some history here and a mini love fest depending on who you talk to.
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I don't see any way that can be interpreted other than the Vikings players are fucking retarded and when they ignored his calls and failed, I think it reinforces it.
"I'm hungry to sack Aaron Rodgers this year." - Datone Jones
"If I'm the one guy he sacks this year, so be it." - Rodgers, probably
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