2013 draft...

[Pugger]

1 pick left on the team after 3 seasons?

That's a horrible draft, and not something that can happen with a " build almost only through the draft" team

If you look at this class now it appears 2013 wasn't one of the better draft classes. Only a couple of the guys taken in the first 10 picks is better than average today.

[smuggler]

1 pick left on the team after 3 seasons?

That's a horrible draft, and not something that can happen with a " build almost only through the draft" team

Well, the Packers had like six guys still on the team from the 2013 draft after 3 seasons. Does that make it a success?

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Well, the Packers had like six guys still on the team from the 2013 draft after 3 seasons. Does that make it a success?

not in my book

whether a player just sucks, or he's an all pro for another team, if he's no longer on the team after 4 years, thats a fail for TT

when you're a build and develop only team like we are (for the most part), you have to find 8-10 guys every single year that can play, and then you have to keep them for 5 or 6 or 7 years at least. you can't afford to loose the decent ones you find

TT did good drafting that year, he did terrible keeping those players. busts or all pros on other teams contribute the same amount to our team next year, nothing

nothing= fail. except for one home run on bahk

[gbgary]

Well, the Packers had like six guys still on the team from the 2013 draft after 3 seasons. Does that make it a success?

they were still under contract. tt doesn't care if you don't play well...only that you're cheap. lol

[pbmax]

The only problem with the 2013 draft was that it contained only one cornerstone. The other pieces were good, but not good enough.

Not a bust of a draft (especially compared to other teams that year) but not a franchise maker either.

[Upnorth]

not in my book

whether a player just sucks, or he's an all pro for another team, if he's no longer on the team after 4 years, thats a fail for TT

when you're a build and develop only team like we are (for the most part), you have to find 8-10 guys every single year that can play, and then you have to keep them for 5 or 6 or 7 years at least. you can't afford to loose the decent ones you find

TT did good drafting that year, he did terrible keeping those players. busts or all pros on other teams contribute the same amount to our team next year, nothing

nothing= fail. except for one home run on bahk

Drafting was awesome for the year. Retention is completely different. I think 75% of the league would have taken our 2013 draft results

[Bretsky]

on paper the picks look fine had we kept them all. But I also don' t think it's unfair to measure TT,since he's pretty much draft and develop only....by how many of his picks warrant second contract. I don't think many if any of these guys wanted to leave. Ted didn't value them high enough to warrant paying them the market value and keeping them.

[Upnorth]

Or the market over valued them. 2013 was not a strong class. It increases their relative value unless you are a good drafting team. Can't be critical of the draft. You can of the lack of retention

[run pMc]

So the criticism shifts from the picks to the retention...

How much would YOU have offered Datone, Lacy, Tretter and Hyde? I recall people posting about offering Lacy a 1 year deal for $2M plus incentives. The Packers gave Lacy an offer, Seattle beat it. It's not like TT and M3 didn't want him back, at least according to M3's comments. It's a good drat for RBs supposedly, so TT will find an in-shape, cheaper, non-injured replacement.

I've already mentioned Hyde.
Tretter wasn't worth starter's money as a backup. Linsley is the starter for one thing, and Tretter can't stay healthy for another. Plus Cleveland offered him a ton of money, and even McGinn was talking the season before this one about how Tretter was likely gone.

Good for these guys for getting paid; I don't have anything against them. I just don't think their contracts are worth it.

pbmax is right about the problem with this draft being only one cornerstone.

[Pugger]

Datone is a disappointing goof ball who will commit a personal foul at the worse possible moment. He will never have to worry about paying his MENSA dues. He has never been the pass rusher we had hoped for.

Lacy is a good back but I don't think he is as dedicated as he should be and having asthma isn't a good combo for a football player in GB. We can find a younger back in this draft to compliment Monty.

Tretter probably wanted a chance to start and we have one in Linsley. JC is a better tackle than guard and we have more tackles than we have spots for.

Hyde is good but is he better than House? House is faster and speed is one thing we need on this defense, especially with Shields gone.

The one FA we lost that leaves the biggest hole is Lang. Unless they have another Lane Taylor under wraps this development has me concerned the most.

[Zool]

I think theyll miss Tretter almost as much as Lang. O-linemen who can play multiple positions well aren't common. See Barclay, Don.

[smuggler]

on paper the picks look fine had we kept them all. But I also don' t think it's unfair to measure TT,since he's pretty much draft and develop only....by how many of his picks warrant second contract. I don't think many if any of these guys wanted to leave. Ted didn't value them high enough to warrant paying them the market value and keeping them.

This is fair for Datone. Hyde got $6mil/yr and Tretter about the same. Lang got almost $10mil/yr.

[pbmax]

I think theyll miss Tretter almost as much as Lang. O-linemen who can play multiple positions well aren't common. See Barclay, Don.

I also wonder about the order of events. Is Tretter still on this team if Lang signed with the Lions first?

[Joemailman]

I also wonder about the order of events. Is Tretter still on this team if Lang signed with the Lions first?

If they thought Tretter could replace Lang, I'm inclined to think they would have signed Tretter right away and not bothered to try and sign Lang. Younger and less expensive.

[Pugger]

If they thought Tretter could replace Lang, I'm inclined to think they would have signed Tretter right away and not bothered to try and sign Lang. Younger and less expensive.

I think Tretter is a better tackle than guard.