Reasons for Hope on Defense 2017 edition

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It might have been undrafted free agent Mike Pennell.....but deep down I thought he was juicing....but I liked him for a while

TT has failed multiple times via the draft here....TRIVIA...who was that worthless POS third round draft pick most of us hated from day one ? I'm surprised as I'm usually pretty good with remembering picks but I can't even recall his name.

Fair point. But I think there are real upsides to be had on the front 7. The backend has more holes in its hope quilt.

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I think red's links, and frankly the majority of stories from a Google search, reference red's date. But the reason they do that is because its easily verifiable as he appears on the injury report for the first time.

But I trust Silverstein knows something he is not at liberty to reveal, otherwise he wouldn't give a Randall quote from Sept 25 but date the injury a week earlier.

Or when you article mentions that Randall said he was "a little banged up", he could update have been talking about something unrelated to his groin, like bumps and bruises, like every player has during the season

If he was injured in week 2, and didn't show up on the injury report for a "groin", then the packers would have broken the rules just like the Seahawks did with Sherman or the steelers did with bell or the jets did with favre

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He was injured very early so anyone making long term judgements is going to be eating their words.

It all depends on when the injury happened

Weeks 2 and 3 he was horrible and looked like the exact same player he was after the injury

So if he really was injured week 2, then he had a very probable excuse. However, if he was only hurt during the bye week(week 4. Then imo there's huge reason for concern because he showed the same shitty problems that he showed at the end of the year

He also, if I'm not mistaken had one or two really bad game at the end of the previous season

So I see a pattern before and after the injury after he lost his swagger

[HarveyWallbangers]

Unless they didn't know about it. Sometimes a player thinks he's just dinged up a bit and doesn't go to the team doctor right away. Happens quite often. Regardless, he was listed as questionable on the first injury report after the week 3 game, so he was very likely injured in week 3. There's a chance he was initially injured in week 2 or had something else bothering him. A player doesn't usually talk about being dinged after two games if he's not dealing with something. The fact is he was dealing with injuries most of the year. Count me in the camp that he'll rebound. He showed me a lot his rookie year. This is similar to Hayward's career projectory.

[bobblehead]

Reasons for hope. In the draft thread we are picking Dalvin Cook apparently. So, TT and MM plan on running the ball 50 times a game to keep the D off the fields as much as possible.

[gbgary]

Reasons for Hope on Defense 2017 edition

9. they can only be better as they can't be much worse.

[texaspackerbacker]

Reasons for hope. In the draft thread we are picking Dalvin Cook apparently. So, TT and MM plan on running the ball 50 times a game to keep the D off the fields as much as possible.

Where did you here that? Cook would be a damn good pick if indeed we go for an RB. He's basically a Montgomery type speed back - the best of that type IMO in the draft. That still doesn't - and damn well shouldn't - run 50 times a game or anywhere near it. It just means having an even more effective change of pace to Aaron Rodgers passing first and most.

The way D enters into it is you score and score and score some more, and force the opponent to take some chances. Then you get ball hawkish and come up with turnovers.

[Brandon494]

Nice write up and hopefully we can get a rookie or two who will make an impact on defense. I was all about getting a CB in the 1st but now I think we should go pass rusher, CB in the 2nd with it being a heavy draft for that position, than OL in the 3rd but who the fuck knows with Ted.

[KYPack]

Nobody has mentioned Gunter. Some people seem to disrespect him for lack of speed, but I'd say instinct - which he has plenty of - trumps speed. I'd rather we had a top notch #1 Corner and Gunter as #2, but as of now, Gunter is the best we've got.

Gunter has the best pre-snap mechanics of any of the CBs. He's no speed demon, but has good field sense. I'd like to see him work into Casey Hayward's old gig. Capers likes a cover 2-like deploy of the safeties. There are a few jobs he can do and do 'em well. He's no iso corner, but he is a decent defensive back.

[Pugger]

Reasons for hope. In the draft thread we are picking Dalvin Cook apparently. So, TT and MM plan on running the ball 50 times a game to keep the D off the fields as much as possible.

I really wonder if Cook will last until #29.

[bobblehead]

I really wonder if Cook will last until #29.

i was being sarcastic. I don't think we will take a RB in the first. Kiper is smoking crack again.

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i was being sarcastic. I don't think we will take a RB in the first. Kiper is smoking crack again.

That is a mock draft done by someone looking at a depth chart.

HEY! They only have one running back and he used to be a WR!

[Zool]

That is a mock draft done by someone looking at a depth chart.

HEY! They only have one running back and he used to be a WR!

Didn't need a QB in 2005 but drafted one. If Cook is on the board and is higher on the board by a decent margin, why not take him. He's Matt Forte with more speed.

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Didn't need a QB in 2005 but drafted one. If Cook is on the board and is higher on the board by a decent margin, why not take him. He's Matt Forte with more speed.

Wasn't an argument about Cook, was an argument about trusting Kiper.