Sherman on the block

[Tony Oday]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19083710/gm-confirms-seattle-seahawks-discussed-trading-richard-sherman

Would love it and would trade this years 1st and next year 3rd for him.

[arcilite]

Trading a 1st and a 3rd for a CB on the decline that will have cap hits of $13.6M and $13.2M over the next two years?

No way.

[Rutnstrut]

Trading a 1st and a 3rd for a CB on the decline that will have cap hits of $13.6M and $13.2M over the next two years?

No way.

Yeah, no reason to get better on defense right NOW. Much better to take the bigger gamble on Ted's shitty ability to draft decent defensive players and take the time for them to not develop. Sherman is still damn good and would be playing with a bigger chip than normal. This defense needs some attitude like what he would bring.

[arcilite]

Yeah, no reason to get better on defense right NOW. Much better to take the bigger gamble on Ted's shitty ability to draft decent defensive players and take the time for them to not develop. Sherman is still damn good and would be playing with a bigger chip than normal. This defense needs some attitude like what he would bring.

Doing that would be mortgaging the future of the team. No thanks.

Taking on that cap hit leaves not much left next year for a Davante Adams extension (remember how many people wanted him cut from the team last year? Remind you of anyone this year? Maybe a Damarious Randall perhaps? Draft & develop works.) We also have Rodgers next contract, CLinton-Dix, etc. to worry about.

Man I'm glad you guys are not in charge.

We would have no draft picks and our team would be made up of people you see on ESPN Classic.

But we would have playmakers, am I right? Ted never drafts those.

[Carolina_Packer]

Doing that would be mortgaging the future of the team. No thanks.

Taking on that cap hit leaves not much left next year for a Davante Adams extension (remember how many people wanted him cut from the team last year? Remind you of anyone this year? Maybe a Damarious Randall perhaps? Draft & develop works.) We also have Rodgers next contract, CLinton-Dix, etc. to worry about.

Man I'm glad you guys are not in charge.

We would have no draft picks and our team would be made up of people you see on ESPN Classic.

But we would have playmakers, am I right? Ted never drafts those.

Everyone would want the talent of a Richard Sherman on the back-end of the defense. Fans want results, I get it. They see windows of opportunity closing and want quick, talented fixes for what ails the team. That said, if they make that kind of a cap commitment to Sherman and he gets hurt (I hear hammy injuries are all the rage), then we have gone to Byrdland (Jairus style). Then we have an expensive player who is not contributing and as you mention, that does not help the signing of future deals. We all want the defense to play better, more consistently, but we don't all agree on what we think the team should do to fix the issues. Good luck with injuries would be a nice start.

[gbgary]

with Rodgers' window closing (and the chances of getting a third outstanding qb being slim to none) i've advocated mortgaging the future to win now. let the next gm fix it later with the ever increasing yearly cap...but...not for this guy. i don't like the guy for his calling out coaches and his 'i'm bigger than the team' attitude. he will divide a locker room quickly. that's why he's on the block. he's got two years left but he's clearly on decline too. so...no.

[Zool]

Man I'm glad you guys are not in charge.

We would have no draft picks and our team would be made up of people you see on ESPN Classic.

The Washington Redskins?

[Upnorth]

with Rodgers' window closing (and the chances of getting a third outstanding qb being slim to none) i've advocated mortgaging the future to win now. let the next gm fix it later with the ever increasing yearly cap...but...not for this guy. i don't like the guy for his calling out coaches and his 'i'm bigger than the team' attitude. he will divide a locker room quickly. that's why he's on the block. he's got two years left but he's clearly on decline too. so...no.

Is Rodgers 37 or 32? Do you want 2 years of opportunity or 5-7? I want talent for the duration of Rodgers tenure, not just 2 years and you are right about Sherman on the decline.

[QBME]

Trading a 1st and a 3rd for a CB on the decline that will have cap hits of $13.6M and $13.2M over the next two years?

No way.

Gotta go with this. Sherman still has speed and skills, but got burned a couple of times in critical situations this past season. Too big a check to write.

But maybe, just maybe, Dom and his staff could capitalize on his remaining strengths?

Waiting for the return volley, from, well....whomever.

[gbgary]

Is Rodgers 37 or 32? Do you want 2 years of opportunity or 5-7? I want talent for the duration of Rodgers tenure, not just 2 years and you are right about Sherman on the decline.

i'm not saying go nuts, but for the next 5 years do whatever it takes and live with the consequences later. the way the cap jumps every year it's not like it would be horribly painful to fix later on anyway. my biggest concern is Rodgers getting to the point that he quits out of frustration. you ready to have randy wright 2.0 more sooner than later?

[Joemailman]

The Seahawks may be interested in trading Sherman. However, I doubt they're looking to trade him to the Packers or any of their other principal NFC rivals.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/se...on-both-sides/

Sherman ranked 10th among all cornerbacks last season, according to Pro Football Focus, though it’s worth pointing out that he earned the lowest pass-coverage grade of his career. In fact, his pass-coverage grades have declined the past three seasons. Again, this is all relative; Sherman ranked 15th in pass coverage in 2016, just behind Marcus Peters and Patrick Peterson.

He's still good, but probably declining. If he were the player he used to be, I doubt the Seahawks would be looking to move him. Right now Raiders would be the most likely place for him to be traded to.

[BZnDallas]

i'm not saying go nuts, but for the next 5 years do whatever it takes and live with the consequences later. the way the cap jumps every year it's not like it would be horribly painful to fix later on anyway. my biggest concern is Rodgers getting to the point that he quits out of frustration. you ready to have randy wright 2.0 more sooner than later?

Nothing I've ever heard from AR suggests he's going to quit bc of frustration. Even his all-in comments at seasons end were suggestively positive. "We just have to make sure....". And just recently he talked up Brady and his workout regiment to stay healthy. If AR can stay healthy he'll play, imo.

Now don't get me wrong, I want a positive attitude from AR while he plays. But as long as TT is active in FA (which nobody can say he hasn't been, this off season), I think that'll keep AR happy. His all-in comment seems to have woken TT. Bc let's be honest, teams can't go all-in every year by definition. You can argue spending every last dime every season, but even AR knows some of that money is going to his next contract and Davante's etc, so its not realistic. As long as TT continues to utilize FA like he has done this off season, AR will be happy and hopefully play well into his 40s.

[gbgary]

Nothing I've ever heard from AR suggests he's going to quit bc of frustration. Even his all-in comments at seasons end were suggestively positive. "We just have to make sure....". And just recently he talked up Brady and his workout regiment to stay healthy. If AR can stay healthy he'll play, imo.

Now don't get me wrong, I want a positive attitude from AR while he plays. But as long as TT is active in FA (which nobody can say he hasn't been, this off season), I think that'll keep AR happy. His all-in comment seems to have woken TT. Bc let's be honest, teams can't go all-in every year by definition. You can argue spending every last dime every season, but even AR knows some of that money is going to his next contract and Davante's etc, so its not realistic. As long as TT continues to utilize FA like he has done this off season, AR will be happy and hopefully play well into his 40s.

he hasn't...but his all-in was a warning.
like i said...i'm not saying go nuts.
all he's done is plug holes he created with similar players. the team hasn't got better...yet.

maybe the draft will help.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm thinking it wouldn't take anywhere near a #1 plus a #3 to get Sherman. Older high quality players like him, especially at positions where it doesn't take much to diminish quality of play like Corner, usually for a single mid round draft pick. I'd like to see the Packers give a #3 or #4 for him.

[The Shadow]

A #2 would be the correct value here. No more.