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  • All Underrated Team: Three Packer Connections

    This is all-time, not current era. Early warning for KYPack, Patler, Shadow, oldbutnotdeadyet, Fritz and all posters who remember the 1974 Packers. There is some rare John Hadl praise in here (though not specifically for his Packer stint).

    It takes more than mere greatness to be considered one of the most underrated players in pro football history. It takes bad timing and bad luck. It takes years of playing the wrong position for the wrong team in the wrong league at the wrong time...


    Contains my favorite paragraph of the off-season so far:

    No modern coach suppressed passing offenses quite like Fisher, and no team produces offensive stats that look like they come from the early 1930s quite like the Ravens. Derrick Mason's 95-catch, 1,200-yard seasons translate to 115-catch monsters in more pass-oriented schemes. Put him on the Tom Brady-led Patriots, and Mason might have invented a new branch of mathematics.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Nice to see Butler get his due. Only a shoulder injury cost him the Hall Of Fame.

    One slight disagreement. This is pretty much a Super Bowl-era list, not an all-time list.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      Nice to see Butler get his due. Only a shoulder injury cost him the Hall Of Fame.

      One slight disagreement. This is pretty much a Super Bowl-era list, not an all-time list.
      Its got some good AFL stuff in there.

      Its also 2017. Everyone before the AFL is underrated.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #4
        Anyone who had a good understanding of pre-merger football talent is dead and has probably been dead for 15 years.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by smuggler View Post
          Anyone who had a good understanding of pre-merger football talent is dead and has probably been dead for 15 years.
          I beg to differ! At least I don't think I am dead!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Patler View Post
            I beg to differ! At least I don't think I am dead!
            I believe I am dead, but I do remember 1974 Packers! Hell, even the 60's packers, yet I did pedal bike from Minneapolis to Rhinelander last summer so I am truly OLD BUT NOT DEAD YET!

            Yippee doo...

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            • #7
              I'm ancient too.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by oldbutnotdeadyet View Post
                I believe I am dead, but I do remember 1974 Packers! Hell, even the 60's packers, yet I did pedal bike from Minneapolis to Rhinelander last summer so I am truly OLD BUT NOT DEAD YET!

                Yippee doo...
                I remember when Lombardi was hired, and I try to run at least 100 miles/month; so without claiming the name I guess I am old but not dead yet, too!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                  Its got some good AFL stuff in there.

                  Its also 2017. Everyone before the AFL is underrated.


                  Where the hell is Bert Jones on that list? He was Brett Favre before there was a Brett Favre.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                    Where the hell is Bert Jones on that list? He was Brett Favre before there was a Brett Favre.
                    Bert Jones' career was actually worse than you remember, if you go back and look at it........

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Patler View Post
                      Bert Jones' career was actually worse than you remember, if you go back and look at it........
                      The Colts had one really good year with Jones at QB; I recall they were coached by Ted Marchibroda (could be wrong) and were, other than that year, pretty dysfunctional. But I remember Jones as having a rocket arm and good accuracy, so don't mess with my memory by going back to actual facts and statistics.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                        The Colts had one really good year with Jones at QB; I recall they were coached by Ted Marchibroda (could be wrong) and were, other than that year, pretty dysfunctional. But I remember Jones as having a rocket arm and good accuracy, so don't mess with my memory by going back to actual facts and statistics.
                        He actually covered the Bert omission:

                        Mike Tanier @MikeTanier May 29
                        Several of these guys were on my watch list. I'm also banned from the Internet from writing any more about Bert Jones.

                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                          Originally posted by Patler View Post
                          Bert Jones' career was actually worse than you remember, if you go back and look at it........
                          The Colts had one really good year with Jones at QB; I recall they were coached by Ted Marchibroda (could be wrong) and were, other than that year, pretty dysfunctional. But I remember Jones as having a rocket arm and good accuracy, so don't mess with my memory by going back to actual facts and statistics.
                          Naw, wasn't going to do that. Just a play on your Quote of KYP in your signature.

                          Jones probably didn't play long enough to merit much consideration. He looked like a possible budding star early, but was hurt, traded and out of the league in relatively quick sequence when he should have been just hitting his stride as a QB.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            He actually covered the Bert omission:

                            Mike Tanier @MikeTanier May 29
                            Several of these guys were on my watch list. I'm also banned from the Internet from writing any more about Bert Jones.

                            http://www.footballoutsiders.com/wal...ory-1981-colts
                            Guess I should have read farther before responding!

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                            • #15
                              Yeah I supposed I should have qualified it better. Not just understand of *some* pre-1970 ball, but a good first-hand account of the league for all of the period from 1920 to 1970. Anyone who was ten years old in 1920 is 107 this year. Haha.

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