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  • Schum out

    Packers released Schum:
    http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...hum/362171001/

    The musical chairs at punter continues. He was waived-injured with a back injury, so either the Packers didn't think he would heal, or just thought he wasn't good enough.
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  • #2
    Good Move. Maybe bring in another UDFA for competition, but it seems like Vogel is a major upgrade from Schum.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
      Good Move. Maybe bring in another UDFA for competition, but it seems like Vogel is a major upgrade from Schum.
      What have you heard? He is a UDFA from Miami, no pro track record.

      Seems ludicrous to trust him to be ready as a rookie.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        What have you heard? He is a UDFA from Miami, no pro track record.

        Seems ludicrous to trust him to be ready as a rookie.
        I don't think they cut Schum because of him, I think they cut Schum because he came back injured and they didn't see a need to tie up a roster spot for him, when they can probably resign him if he gets healthy. I doubt there is a line of GM's waiting for Schum to be available.

        I expect there will be another punter on the roster before TC starts.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Patler View Post
          I don't think they cut Schum because of him, I think they cut Schum because he came back injured and they didn't see a need to tie up a roster spot for him, when they can probably resign him if he gets healthy. I doubt there is a line of GM's waiting for Schum to be available.

          I expect there will be another punter on the roster before TC starts.
          I agree with you. I wanted to know why tex thought it was an upgrade and worth the risk.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            I agree with you. I wanted to know why tex thought it was an upgrade and worth the risk.
            Hyperbole

            Originally posted by 3irty1
            This is museum quality stupidity.

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            • #7
              meh. he did lead the league in fewest punts returned, or fewest return yards, or something like that though.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                What have you heard? He is a UDFA from Miami, no pro track record.

                Seems ludicrous to trust him to be ready as a rookie.
                I know ..... I meant maybe bring in another one in case Vogel doesn't pan out.

                I don't see any reason he can't do well as a rookie, though.
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                • #9
                  oops...it was lowest % of returnable punts.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gbgary View Post
                    oops...it was lowest % of returnable punts.
                    It felt like every time we needed a good punt he hit a 32 yarder that went out of bounds for no return.

                    I remember at warm-ups last year and watching Schum boom punts before games. He never got off a punt close to his warm-ups in game action.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                      It felt like every time we needed a good punt he hit a 32 yarder that went out of bounds for no return.

                      I remember at warm-ups last year and watching Schum boom punts before games. He never got off a punt close to his warm-ups in game action.
                      Against both Dallas and Atlanta in the playoffs he averaged 54 yards per punt. I thought he got off to a bad start last year but then really turned it around.
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                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                        Against both Dallas and Atlanta in the playoffs he averaged 54 yards per punt. I thought he got off to a bad start last year but then really turned it around.
                        me too.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          Against both Dallas and Atlanta in the playoffs he averaged 54 yards per punt. I thought he got off to a bad start last year but then really turned it around.
                          Yeah Schum was 16th ranked in net average for the year at 39.8, but the last 3 games (playoff games) he netted 43.4 which would have been 3rd in the league had he done that all year.

                          It's all about net average in Green Bay, the ball just doesn't travel as far, and Schum did an underrated job overall I think. He's replaceable though obviously.

                          Don't drop the ball here Teddy. Maybe there's some Austrailian who can run around, threaten some first downs and "kick it where they ain't" when he can't get the first down...
                          Last edited by vince; 06-02-2017, 11:18 PM.

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                          • #14
                            The key is can Vogel do the job as holder for Crosby. I was hoping they woulda kept that guy last year who came from Green Bay, went to U. of Minnesota, and won some award as the Big Ten's best holder, in addition to having damn good punting numbers and some all around athleticism. Maybe still bring him in to compete.

                            In general, though, there's no reason I can think of why a punter would not have as good numbers in the NFL as college, and therefore, not be decent right from the start as a pro.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                              In general, though, there's no reason I can think of why a punter would not have as good numbers in the NFL as college, and therefore, not be decent right from the start as a pro.
                              You can't just look at a punter's numbers in college and expect them to translate to the NFL. Often punters in college can get away with bad practices or forms that you can't do at this level. The biggest thing is the snap to kick time. Look at how many colleges have these rugby style punters who take a bunch of steps before kicking. That won't fly against an NFL rush. Even with normal punters, many take an extra step or are just a bit slower than needed for the NFL. Fixing those problems can screw up a punters consistency.
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