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  • #76
    Originally posted by Patler View Post
    It's not about if they could prevent it or not; if it is illegal or not. The point is that he used that podium to express an opinion in an unpopular way. He used the owners' places of conducting their business, where and how their income is generated. Of course he will pay consequences for it.





    I see absolutely no relevance to whether tickets are sold, whether it is on public property or any of the issues such as standing or singing. In some people's mind the flag, national anthem, etc. are "special" as targets for protest; but really, they are not. What has been decided is these are not "special" items of protection against such protests.
    A public protest and advocacy are always seeking out the biggest possible venue. And when you invite patriotism into the stadium to help link your sport with goodwill toward armed services, you are going to get blowback in some form or fashion. Its inevitable and should be expected. Whether its a black armband, initials on cleats, a raised fist or boycott of an Olympics, resistance to the prevailing idea will intrude. Its part and parcel of political expression, which is what the displays are at the beginning of games. The anthem was not always played before games.

    The owner can hire who they wish. But avoiding Kaepernick solely on this basis is objectively making some teams worse. There is a statistical case that Kaepernick is better than Blake Bortles, who starts for the Jags.

    The risk is being overestimated.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
      There is no joy in Mudville
      No there is not. I work from home too much.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #78
        "I'll tell you what you better understand! Next time you see Old Glory riding up that pole, you better sing that anthem, darling! You're lucky you're a chick, or you'd be nothing but a stain on the road and a crewcut. Our founding fathers went to the mat for you, baby!"

        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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        • #79
          I've got chunks of guys like you in my stool!
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by swede View Post
            Oh we stand, and we pledge, and we sing at my place of work. And any deviation from expected behaviors results in a loss of free agency on the playground.
            I had a teacher like you in high school. He gave out A's to students who parroted his views about Vietnam (shoulda made a parkin lot out of it) and promised extra credit to girls who wore minis. Later on he was exposed as a pederastic pedophile.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by hoosier View Post
              I had a teacher like you in high school. He gave out A's to students who parroted his views about Vietnam (shoulda made a parkin lot out of it) and promised extra credit to girls who wore minis. Later on he was exposed as a pederastic pedophile.
              Was that Mr. Hanrahan?
              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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              • #82
                Originally posted by hoosier View Post
                I had a teacher like you in high school. He gave out A's to students who parroted his views about Vietnam (shoulda made a parkin lot out of it)
                This teacher just had the long view, kinda like Isaiah.

                http://tuoitrenews.vn/society/40013/...parking-spaces
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                  Was that Mr. Hanrahan?
                  I'm pretty sure he was the descendant of pilgrims, not Irish. Though if Yeats had known my guy I am sure he would have made a character out of him.

                  Long view indeed, though he probably didn't need it: most of the girls sat in front.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by hoosier View Post
                    I had a teacher like you in high school. He gave out A's to students who parroted his views about Vietnam (shoulda made a parkin lot out of it) and promised extra credit to girls who wore minis. Later on he was exposed as a pederastic pedophile.
                    Holy crap. Was he charged and tried or just driven out of the job?
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #85
                      I'm just happy you kids made it thru school & puberty & shit.

                      Kap?, I think he sits until the season starts. A few significant injuries, he signs with somebody.

                      I don't think the teams want to go thru the drama until they have to make a move.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by hoosier View Post
                        I'm pretty sure he was the descendant of pilgrims, not Irish. Though if Yeats had known my guy I am sure he would have made a character out of him.

                        Long view indeed, though he probably didn't need it: most of the girls sat in front.
                        At least those girls knew what it took to be successful.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          Holy crap. Was he charged and tried or just driven out of the job?
                          You mean for the pederasty? Nah, that came out after he retired. I don't think charges were ever brought, so maybe it never went beyond the realm of credible rumor.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            At least those girls knew what it took to be successful.
                            Yes, I never once heard anyone ask the guy what they had to do to get an A in his class.

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                            • #89
                              Merely wearing the right kind of clothing doesn't seem like too much to ask.
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                                Merely wearing the right kind of clothing doesn't seem like too much to ask.
                                There was also an unspoken assumption about where to sit. What good is a mini if a guy shaped like Spaulding is blocking the view?

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