Kaepernick unemployment

[pbmax]

I seriously doubt all of Kaepernick's thoughts are truly condensed down in that one Tweet after the Castile verdict. He has spoken far more thoughtfully prior. If somehow it represents a change of mind, I guess we will find out in the due course of time.

But the crux of the matter are lethal engagements that are completely avoidable. And the police, or the local sheriffs, are the institution centralized enough to adopt a different approach to reduce the number.

Community wide engagement to reduce hostile interactions is fine, but its will take longer to ramp up and be more expensive than to work from within. Same with hiring demographics, though both are fine areas to address.

The goal cannot simply be fewer police deaths. It has to include fewer civilian casualties. And I think the place to start is to have far more specific definitions that "believed he was in danger" for a threshold to action. Its not falsifiable and is impossible to adjudicate fairly.

[hoosier]

Your language is nicer than Kap and friends, but you too see the 'cultural chasm' as being entirely the fault of the police. What is the 'cultural chasm?' Who caused it? Who is using it as a political weapon? It may surprise you that most people in 'culturally chasmed' communities, while distrusting the police, still depend on them for some level of safety. People who hate the police still seem to call 911 when a victim of the cultural chasm inflicts physical rearrangement on them or appropriates objects from them.

Max's post already addresses the main point where I disagree with what you write: we're not just talking about individuals (cops and civilians), we're talking about how institutions train their officers. In the end it doesn't really matter how much "fault" you or I attribute to police when we're talking about preventable deaths that result from police misinterpretation, overreaction or whatever, because it's training (or training and legal codes) that will affect how frequently those things happen. The only thing I will add to what Max wrote is that, from a moral perspective, I believe that the police, as representatives of the law, should in a very specific way be held to a higher standard of conduct than civilians. The militarization of policing over the past few decades is detrimental to that principle, as is the idea that perceived danger is sufficient justification for use of lethal force.

[mraynrand]

Police are held to a higher standard

[Rutnstrut]

Bottom line imo. Kap is a POS that isn't really that into football.

[Guiness]

Bottom line imo. Kap is a POS that isn't really that into football.

Aw damn, I almost have to agree with The Rut. IMO Kap is not trying very hard to play football, he isn't (visibly to the public) working very hard at getting a job; not giving interviews saying he wants to play, talking about his SB experience, etc, or anything else that would put pressure on the league to take him seriously.

[mraynrand]

I farted into a cup and it sounded funny.

[Zool]

I wonder if he hadn't kneeled during the national anthem, would his tweets be this heavily scrutinized?

[mraynrand]

I wonder if he hadn't kneeled during the national anthem, would his tweets be this heavily scrutinized?

[Zool]

[smuggler]

People who lie down in front of traffic get run over and have been paid significantly less than Kaep. They are contributing to society about as much as each other (by that I mean not much in truth), so I don't have much simpathy for Kaep. He's still healthy and wealthy.

[Fritz]

I farted into a cup and it sounded funny.

If you fart into your cupped hand it sounds like a duck.

[hoosier]

If you fart into your cupped hand it sounds like a duck.

Please take that to the augmentation thread in the RR where it belongs.