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  • #16
    I think football is under fire so much because they outright lied to the medical community for quite a while. They had a rheumatologist as their concussion expert and had him publish fabrications to medical journals. In turn doctors gave mis-information to their patients about concussions. Other than a pretty small settlement (at least by NFL income standards) they've not been held accountable. Not saying it's right, just saying it's a possible explanation for the all out warfare from some corners.

    The NFL buried a doctor's career because he dared to oppose their "findings". They should be held accountable.
    Originally posted by 3irty1
    This is museum quality stupidity.

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    • #17
      I know it would never happen, but I've always thought if you took away face masks from the helmets there would be WAY less leading with the head. Now you would certainly be more likely to break noses and such, but I think it would go a long way to fixing these head issues.
      Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly. -Morticia Addams

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Mazzin View Post
        I know it would never happen, but I've always thought if you took away face masks from the helmets there would be WAY less leading with the head. Now you would certainly be more likely to break noses and such, but I think it would go a long way to fixing these head issues.
        I would think taking away the face mask would lead to more people leading with the crown of the helmet to protect their faces, and avoiding the 'heads up' tackle. They might also turn their heads to protect their faces, and getting hit in the side of the head would be worse for concussions and neck injuries.
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        • #19
          So keep the face mask and eliminate the rest of the helmet.
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • #20
            Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
            So keep the face mask and eliminate the rest of the helmet.
            Superglue sales would go through the roof
            Originally posted by 3irty1
            This is museum quality stupidity.

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            • #21
              I still think a complete re-design of the helmets is in order. The first thing to go would be the hard outer shell, which causes players to use it as a weapon and transmits too much of the impact. Replace it with a soft but durable outer coating with a foam layer underneath. Below that a thin, hard layer, possibly carbon fiber, to protect against crushing damage / skull fractures. Inside that a thin rubbery gel layer and finally form insets for fit and final shock absorption. Attach the face mask to the hard middle layer with stiff springs. The whole thing would be made to reduce shock transmission to the brain but cold still be a similar size and weigh to regular helmets. It would be more like how a car protects squishy humans by having crumple zones on the outside, a stiff protection zone and some shock absorbers (air bags) on the inside.
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              • #22
                If the helmet was sort of an internal taser, I think it would improve things immensely.

                Goes off when the shell is in contact with uniform or pads.
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                • #23
                  Madtown, please change my title from "Senior Rat" to "Barney Fuckdoggle Truther"

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                    http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...udy/507634001/

                    110 out of 111 donated brains of former players showed signs of CTE. Now there could be some sample bias as those who's families were concerned about CTE were probably more likely to donate brains for this study, but even so, 99+% is incredibly high.

                    This is not good for the future of football.
                    No this is not good at all for football or for the future of our Packers. I hope what other posters predict which is the evolvement of the helmet and perhaps how the game is played - I dunno.

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                    • #25


                      NFL got caught trying to hand select (or, in the specific case, veto) who gets their hands-off $30 million dollar donation to the NIH for confusion research.

                      And now they are bailing on the rest of the commitment.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                        http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...udy/507634001/

                        110 out of 111 donated brains of former players showed signs of CTE. Now there could be some sample bias as those who's families were concerned about CTE were probably more likely to donate brains for this study, but even so, 99+% is incredibly high.

                        This is not good for the future of football.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          http://deadspin.com/report-nfl-to-wa...n-r-1797341084

                          NFL got caught trying to hand select (or, in the specific case, veto) who gets their hands-off $30 million dollar donation to the NIH for confusion research.

                          And now they are bailing on the rest of the commitment.
                          If only I could do the same with my taxes.
                          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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