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TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER -
Overall that is looking like a pretty bad draft.
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.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
Still early but yea missing on the 2nd and 3rd pick stings especially after trading up for Spriggs. At least it seems like we hit on two D linemen and Martinez still looking decent.
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Has Kenny Clark really been a good player so far? I guess I viewed him as still TBD. I haven't been following the Packers super closely though.Comment
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Pretty bold declaring it a bad draft then.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
In my opinion, Clark was worthy of a D1. He shows up against first string O-Lineman and consistently gets push.
Spriggs is already twice as good as Barclay every was pass protecting. I only got to watch the first half on game pass before falling asleep last night. One of his sacks was technique error, one depends on who missed the assignment (Spriggs, Hundley, etc). So I don't see him as bad as Sherrod or Barclay on the edge. So far, he seems to fit the bill as a second round draft pick--he still has work to do, but it's clear he has ability
Fackrell seems like a complete whiff. But a draft is only about 50/50 overall for any contribution.
Martinez isn't anything special, but he seems to belong in the NFL.
Lowry is definitely starter material. GB seems to do well finding lineman in the 4th.
Davis has speed and talent, both enough for the NFL, but he's just inconsistent enough. Needs to get over that hump. Could be this year. But WRs in McCarthy's system can take 3-4 years unless they're shifty slot receivers like Greg Jennings or Cobb.
Murphy sounds like a player by all accounts. He's apparently playing second string at RT, but I don't notice him during games. Sounds like he's consistent. And writers are suggested he try to back up the LT, so he's definitely doing well. Pretty good for a D6.
So with 4 definite hits (Clark, Martinez, Lowry, and Murphy) out of 7 (8 if you count Spriggs as 2), they're at the norm of 50% now. If Spriggs or Davis turn out, it's an above average draft. If Clark becomes really good (supposedly D-Line is supposed to take longer than this to develop), it's a great draft.
So far, it appears Clark and Lowry are the only ones with a shot to rise above and maybe become pro-bowl capable (Clark more than Lowry). So not a Rodgers/Collins draft, but not bad either.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.Comment
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I'll call him the next looks like tarzan plays like jane. Sherrod was a better tackle imo, and Murphy has outplayed him in the 2 preseason games (all I can go on).Originally posted by Bretsky View PostThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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Damn forgot all about Sherrod...what a complete wasteOriginally posted by bobblehead View PostComment
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I don't think Spriggs is a bad backup, but it does suck we had to use 2 picks to get him. I don't think he'll become a starter for us.Comment
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There is still time. Cliffy was ready Week 1, but Tauscher started because of an Earl Dotson injury (back).Originally posted by smuggler View Post
Bach took his lumps the first two years. At times beat by both speed and power. Spriggs needs to solve one first then get better at other. I don't think he should ever be beaten by speed with his physical abilities. That is where I would start.
Once you throw up that wall, then work on counters.
Baranczyk thought his hands were unsettled, but I though he was too high on the corner and lost leverage.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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I agree, his hands are OK. Every young player needs a better punch. Hell, Bakh has a crappy punch but makes up for it with tenacity and positioning. Thing is its a dance and you have to be in sync. If your hands are in position and your body isn't you end up holding. Its why I thought sherrod had a shot. His feet were so good for a mountain that he got in front of guys. Spriggs is the opposite, so athletic and long, but doesn't get in front of guys....wtf.Originally posted by pbmax View PostThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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He's looked like a beast this preseason. Shit, I didn't see either game, and even I know that.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostComment
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Surprised to see Sherrod mentioned in this thread. He never really played much, and the leg injury and ensuing SNAFU pretty much robbed him of any opportunity to play.Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
More of a Terrence Murphy 'not enough information' IMO--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...Comment
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Put Spriggs on the Christian Ringo diet; Better yet, give Ringo a shot at O Tackle.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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