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  • #16
    OK 2 point break down. I was confident the first time I ran through in in GD thread. Less confident when I posted it in Banjo, so let's take it apart.

    First things first, the operation as Zook calls the snap and hold were better in second half, but I doubt anyone was oozing confidence in TAYBOR™ and Vogel. So the advantage might have been greater given their performance in this game.

    Remember Cowboys are built to mil clock, even with Packer defense coming back in second half, Cowboys drives were long and time consuming.

    28-24 after Randall Pick 6. No matter what Cowboys can't get a FG to stay in game.

    If you make a 2 pointer, you are up 6. If they score it and go for 1 (30-31), you can win with FG

    If you miss 2 PT, you are up 4. If they score and go for 1 (28-31), FG ties it. They could go for 2 to force you to get T, but I doubt it when odds are high of a tie at home.

    If you kick the PAT and make it, 29-31 after Cowboy score. Depending on clock, VERY good chance the Boys go for 2. Kicking a PAT for a 2 point lead is no different for 1 point lead.

    If you kick the PAT and miss (a definite possibility today at 32 yards), 28-31 after Dallas TD, they will not got for 2 and a FG nets a tie.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #17
      Rodgers delivered 3 4th Q comebacks in one game. Unclutch indeed.

      Oops. One goes to Randall actually.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
        He's not wrong. A few good plays does not out do the screw ups he will make. Then again what do I know. I wanted to get rid of Davante Adams...
        Troy was all confused during the game, but he was right that DR has some growing up to do. But it was during his best sequence of the game that he insisted this, so point may have been lost.

        Another thing, Brice can play and so can Hawkins.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #19
          I loved the Troy call that Bacteria caused the sack and then the camera pans to Bacteria on the sideline in street clothes. Totally priceless.
          But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

          -Tim Harmston

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
            He's not wrong. A few good plays does not out do the screw ups he will make. Then again what do I know. I wanted to get rid of Davante Adams...
            Randall is an exasperating guy. Packers will try to be patient with him because at times he does show why he was a 1st round pick.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #21
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              Pete Dougherty‏ @PeteDougherty 10m10 minutes ago
              Only injuries Packers announce postgame: King (concussion) and Burnett (hamstring)
              Any idea why Jordy wasn't in there on the final drive? Had to be an injury or else he would have been on the field. Maybe sick? Something weird about that.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                OK 2 point break down. I was confident the first time I ran through in in GD thread. Less confident when I posted it in Banjo, so let's take it apart.

                First things first, the operation as Zook calls the snap and hold were better in second half, but I doubt anyone was oozing confidence in TAYBOR™ and Vogel. So the advantage might have been greater given their performance in this game.

                Remember Cowboys are built to mil clock, even with Packer defense coming back in second half, Cowboys drives were long and time consuming.

                28-24 after Randall Pick 6. No matter what Cowboys can't get a FG to stay in game.

                If you make a 2 pointer, you are up 6. If they score it and go for 1 (30-31), you can win with FG

                If you miss 2 PT, you are up 4. If they score and go for 1 (28-31), FG ties it. They could go for 2 to force you to get T, but I doubt it when odds are high of a tie at home.

                If you kick the PAT and make it, 29-31 after Cowboy score. Depending on clock, VERY good chance the Boys go for 2. Kicking a PAT for a 2 point lead is no different for 1 point lead.

                If you kick the PAT and miss (a definite possibility today at 32 yards), 28-31 after Dallas TD, they will not got for 2 and a FG nets a tie.
                “I can’t help but ask, one day many years later, when you find your previous awareness, cognition and choices are all wrong, will you keep going along the wrong…

                The chart I looked at (link above) says that when up 4, the two options are "The Same" in terms of win probability.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                  I loved the Troy call that Bacteria caused the sack and then the camera pans to Bacteria on the sideline in street clothes. Totally priceless.
                  I was hootin' my ass off at that.

                  Buck and Ache-man have got to go.

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                  • #24
                    Aikmans bias was unreal today. The way he talks shit about the Pack, Rodgers and M3 turns my stomach. /s

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                      Aikmans bias was unreal today. The way he talks shit about the Pack, Rodgers and M3 turns my stomach. /s
                      I don't hear the bias. Pretty sure he said the penalty on Martinez was a bad call. You're saying he doesn't praise Rodgers? I think he does regularly.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #26
                        /s = sarcasm

                        IMO Aikman holds the Pack in high esteem. At one point he thought there was pass interference on the Pack; he sees the replay and corrects himself and says “Meh, good non-call.”

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          Randall is an exasperating guy. Packers will try to be patient with him because at times he does show why he was a 1st round pick.
                          t.............

                          buck

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                            I loved the Troy call that Bacteria caused the sack and then the camera pans to Bacteria on the sideline in street clothes. Totally priceless.
                            There is a link to Twitter video of it in one of my game day posts.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                              /s = sarcasm

                              IMO Aikman holds the Pack in high esteem. At one point he thought there was pass interference on the Pack; he sees the replay and corrects himself and says “Meh, good non-call.”
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by vince View Post
                                http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...or-2-for-real/
                                The chart I looked at (link above) says that when up 4, the two options are "The Same" in terms of win probability.
                                I could see that. The operation on the kicking team probably tilts in in the 2 pointers favor then.
                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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