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  • #16
    2008 traded 1st round pick and got Jordy Nelson 6 spots later.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

    -Tim Harmston

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    • #17
      2010 Bryan Bulaga
      But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

      -Tim Harmston

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      • #18
        2012 Nick Perry
        But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

        -Tim Harmston

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        • #19
          2014 Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
          But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

          -Tim Harmston

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          • #20
            2016 Kenny Clark
            But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

            -Tim Harmston

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            • #21
              Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
              2008 traded 1st round pick and got Jordy Nelson 6 spots later.

              2010 Bryan Bulaga

              2012 Nick Perry

              2014 Ha Ha Clinton-Dix

              2016 Kenny Clark

              Can't wait for the 2018 pick.
              I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #22
                Just for comparison 1st round picks for Dallas:
                2005 DeMarcus Ware, Marcus Spears
                2006 Bobby Catpenter
                2007 Anthony Spencer
                2008 Felix Jones, Mike Jenkins
                2009 No Pick
                2010 Dez Bryant
                2011 Tyron Smith
                2012 Morris Claiborne
                2013 Travis Fredrick
                2014 Zack Martin
                2015 Byron Jones
                2016 Ezekiel Elliott
                2017 Taco Charlton
                But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                -Tim Harmston

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                  I'll simply go with Sherrod was 'a BUST'.

                  TT doesn't do very well with 1st Round Picks.



                  2006 ... AJ Hawk..He never fulfilled his promise. He made a ton of money from Ted Thompson. Ohh 'You bought the Jersey ' !

                  2007... Justin Harrell...Dear GOD ! Ted waited though.

                  2008... TT traded down or out of the First Round.

                  2009... B.J. Raji...A Heavy Parking Lot Pylon.

                  2011... Derek Sherrod.TT demonstrated another level of patience there.

                  2013... Datone Jones. He is one team away from being on the Roster of every NFCN Team.

                  2015... Damarious Randall.Our newest NFL Poster Boy For 'I'm A Serious Problem Child'.

                  2017.. TT traded down or out of the First Round.
                  Woody, you're looking through anti-TT colored glasses, and it's majorly clouding your judgment.

                  From a post of mine back in April before the draft:

                  Originally posted by Smidgeon
                  TT has only had a few mid or top of the round picks:
                  2006: AJ Hawk (#5). Reliable starter, eminently replaceable (but wasn't) in a draft that was overall just terrible.
                  2007: Justin Harrell (#16). A miss. Injuries killed his career. I don't like calling injured players busts as I reserve that for the Ahmad Carrolls of the NFL, but you can if you want
                  2009: BJ Raji (#9). Flashed very brightly in 2010 helping lead to a Super Bowl. I don't know how I'd rank him otherwise, but I'd trade the #9 pick in the draft for that kind of performance in a Super Bowl winning year.

                  Those are the only times TT picked within the Top 20. After Rodgers first starting season, he hasn't picked inside the 20s (barring a trade up, this will be the eighth year in a row). Restocking and finding quality is tough when two thirds of the league has picked their favorites before you get a chance.

                  Here are the rest of TT's first round picks in draft order:
                  21 (2014): HHCD - appears to be long term starter and a good player
                  23 (2010): Bulaga - long term starter and a good player
                  26 (2009): Matthews - the second first round pick that year, and someone who had several great seasons to start his career but has tapered off due to injuries; still a good player
                  27 (2016): Clark - too early to tell, but he flashed in the playoffs against a good Dallas O-line
                  28 (2012): Perry - not a flashy pass rusher, but a very good run defender, and some argue more important to the D than Matthews because of that
                  30 (2015): Randall - a terrible sophomore campaign that followed a very promising rookie campaign--he's got one more year to turn it around before we Casey Hayward him.
                  30 (2008): Traded into second round for Jordy Nelson
                  32 (2011): Sherrod - along with Harrell, the only (so far--Randall, I'm watching you) outright miss by TT in the first round, but again, due to injuries; as I recall though, many people hated the Harrell pick but loved the Sherrod pick at the time. Both failed for the same three reasons: injuries, injuries, injuries.

                  Anyway, with only 2 out of 12 (maybe 3 depending on how Randall rebounds) first round picks outright failing to deliver value for the Packers, I'd say he's done a pretty good job picking through the leftovers at the end of the round.

                  If Clark doesn't turn into something special though, I would think we're due for another star in this draft. It's random and completely unpredictable, but we haven't gotten a bonafide star for a while.
                  No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                  • #24
                    Should trade all picks to get into the 2nd round, 4th round and 6th and 7th.

                    Just avoid 1, 3 and 5 altogether.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                      Funny, you missed Aaron Rodgers.
                      And CMIII...

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                      • #26
                        Raji had an unfortunately short career but he was a huge factor in that 2010 defense and SuperBowl run. His play down the stretch that year makes it pretty tough to argue that was a bad pick.
                        When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                          Raji had an unfortunately short career but he was a huge factor in that 2010 defense and SuperBowl run. His play down the stretch that year makes it pretty tough to argue that was a bad pick.
                          if it wasn't for the touchdown and the truffle shuffle afterwards, i doubt most people would remember him other then being a 1st round bust

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by red View Post
                            if it wasn't for the touchdown and the truffle shuffle afterwards, i doubt most people would remember him other then being a 1st round bust
                            I think you are being rather harsh in your assessment of Raji's play. He had 152 solo tackles and 11 sacks as a nose tackle in 6 years.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                              I think you are being rather harsh in your assessment of Raji's play. He had 152 solo tackles and 11 sacks as a nose tackle in 6 years.
                              sooo, 25 or so tackles a year and less then 2 sack per year for a 1st round pick

                              also, we gave up a ton of yards on the ground when he was in there being the run stuffer

                              we were talking about him being a bust before he quit on the team, then came back only to be injured right away (to grab his paycheck imo), then give up on the team again

                              at the end of the day, at best, you could say he was average. never came close to being worth the #9 pick or whatever he was

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                                Funny, you missed Aaron Rodgers.
                                I posted strictly those First Round Picks that are Busts or have some questions attached to them.

                                How many clear cut 'Voted In' Pro Bowls did AJ Hawk garner? He was a very high Pick and he didn't live up to what TT might have hoped for and his College Production.

                                Jordy is a tremendous WR. I confined my Post to 1st Round 'PICKS'.
                                ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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