Official 2018 nfl draft thread

[wist43]

Please stop talking about moving Matthews to the middle. If that is the case cut him because he makes too much money for what he will offer the Packers.

Smith will be able to cover, which the Packers haven't had a linebacker capable of covering anyone in a decade. He will offer pass rush from all over the field, no he would play OLB for the packers but he can line up in the slot and blitz off the edge, he can blitz from the middle.

IF IF IF..... its the draft and all but he will make the defense much better from day one.

I don't want to move Matthews to the middle as in make him an ILB.

But assuming Pettine runs a 4-2 nickel base as his primary "sub"-package... in the middle with Martinez is where Matthews belongs. Just b/c he's initially lined up in the middle, doesn't mean you can't move him around and blitz him from just about anywhere.

You're not goi my to have him put his hand in the dirt.

This alignment is why an edge rusher like Landry makes sense.

If Pettine goes with a 3-3, then you can move guys all over the place.

[HarveyWallbangers]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000927113/article/nfl-draft-four-prospects-who-could-be-surprise-firstrounders

Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado

He probably has gotten the least attention among the clump of borderline late-first/early-second round cornerbacks behind top prospect Denzel Ward. Oliver isn't a particularly "sudden" athlete, but the former high school track star's length and long speed (4.50-second 40-dash dash) are intriguing to press-man teams.

"He's tall (6-1) and he's got long arms (33 1/2 inches), he's got good range," one scout said. "He kind of plays like Rod Woodson did back in the day, where he's tough and he'll hit. He's a young kid. He's only 21. He's got a bunch of opportunity to grow and get better, too."

[Bretsky]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-firstrounders

a genius just draft him in the PR draft

Now go make your dam pick to end round one ))

[wist43]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-firstrounders

It wouldn't surprise me if Oliver were a first rounder... the other 3 mentioned in the article would though.

[Bretsky]

I could see Hurst and Oliver....

[woodbuck27]

It wouldn't surprise me if Oliver were a first rounder... the other 3 mentioned in the article would though.

+1

[woodbuck27]

[woodbuck27]

[woodbuck27]

Go to 32:00 and 35:20 (** specifically **) ..to see a Three Draft Position Trade up;

the ** 3rd involves the Green Bay Packers **.

[Bretsky]

Daniel Jeremiah has Hughes (15th overall) and Alexander (16th) ranked ahead. You like either of those?

Jackson is #26, he has Oliver at #32.

This list really seems to be tier one and then a dropoff after. SO LET"S ASK THE REAL QUESTION....DREAMWORLD


HOW DO WE GET A ELITE OLB in EDMUNDS and EITHER OLIVER, HUGHES, JACKSON, or ALEXANDER ??????????????

[pbmax]

This list really seems to be tier one and then a dropoff after. SO LET"S ASK THE REAL QUESTION....DREAMWORLD


HOW DO WE GET A ELITE OLB in EDMUNDS and EITHER OLIVER, HUGHES, JACKSON, or ALEXANDER ??????????????

I think they might get lucky to get one elite prospect (someone falls or they trade up) but then its a crap shoot on the second. But the team does a good job in the second round so it shouldn't be impossible to hit on two. I am actually more worried about Round 1 pick.

[pbmax]

Eric Edholm @Eric_Edholm
Savage:
Minkah Fitzpatrick showed up to a team visit in sportcoat and carried himself like a 4-5 year pro.

PEOPLE ARE VERY WEIRD ABOUT THIS PROCESS. THEY REMEMBER THAT AL DAVIS AND OTHERS WOULD LOCK THESE GUYS IN HOTELS TO KEEP THEM FROM SEEING OTHER TEAMS, RIGHT?

Tom Gower @ThomasGower
Bob McGinn scout quotes on top TEs:
Guy 1: "doesn't block"
Guy 2: "He'll have to learn how to block more"
Guy 3: "He wouldn't block me"
Guy 4: "allergic to blocking"
Guy 5: "He won't block"

THOSE ARE THE FIVE HIGHEST RANKED TEs IN BOB'S DRAFT SPECIAL. HIS SCOUT IS A BROKEN RECORD WITH A BAD SCOUTING TEMPLATE

[Joemailman]

This list really seems to be tier one and then a dropoff after. SO LET"S ASK THE REAL QUESTION....DREAMWORLD


HOW DO WE GET A ELITE OLB in EDMUNDS and EITHER OLIVER, HUGHES, JACKSON, or ALEXANDER ??????????????

That would be tough. I could see the Bears taking Edmunds at #8. Would probably have to sacrifice 2nd round pick to move ahead of the Bears.

[Deputy Nutz]

This list really seems to be tier one and then a dropoff after. SO LET"S ASK THE REAL QUESTION....DREAMWORLD


HOW DO WE GET A ELITE OLB in EDMUNDS and EITHER OLIVER, HUGHES, JACKSON, or ALEXANDER ??????????????

There are about 5 corners that the Packers could get with the 14th pick. The Packers would be thrilled to get Ward or Fitzpatrick with the 14th pick, but there is about a 20% chance of that happening.

Jackson, Alexander, Hughes, Oliver are the other options, but these are the 2 tier guys. The hope for Packer fans is that the Packers can get top tier talent with the 14th pick. The Packers might miss the boat on Tier 1 guys at the biggest position of need on defense, accept for maybe linebacker, or defensive line. Smith and Edmunds could be gone, Chubb will be gone by 14, and Davenport could be gone, but Davenport is a 2 tier pass rusher along with Landry.

The best chance at a tier 1 prospect at 14 will come at receiver, and linebacker. James would be the best athlete in the draft but crazy chance of him falling to the Packers even with 5 QBs possibly going before 14.

Corner has the strongest 2nd tier for position of need for the Packers. I really don't see a whole lot of difference between Jackson, Oliver, Hughes. Different attributes and weaknesses but all could be great, or all could bust at 14. If it was an exact science then every pick would hit. Pass rushers have the shallowest tier 1 with just Chubb, tier 2 isn't much deeper.

[woodbuck27]

There are about 5 corners that the Packers could get with the 14th pick. The Packers would be thrilled to get Ward or Fitzpatrick with the 14th pick, but there is about a 20% chance of that happening.

Jackson, Alexander, Hughes, Oliver are the other options, but these are the 2 tier guys. The hope for Packer fans is that the Packers can get top tier talent with the 14th pick. The Packers might miss the boat on Tier 1 guys at the biggest position of need on defense, accept for maybe linebacker, or defensive line. Smith and Edmunds could be gone, Chubb will be gone by 14, and Davenport could be gone, but Davenport is a 2 tier pass rusher along with Landry.

The best chance at a tier 1 prospect at 14 will come at receiver, and linebacker. James would be the best athlete in the draft but crazy chance of him falling to the Packers even with 5 QBs possibly going before 14.

Corner has the strongest 2nd tier for position of need for the Packers. I really don't see a whole lot of difference between Jackson, Oliver, Hughes. Different attributes and weaknesses but all could be great, or all could bust at 14. If it was an exact science then every pick would hit. Pass rushers have the shallowest tier 1 with just Chubb, tier 2 isn't much deeper.

So why Not trade down from Pick NO. 14?