Official 2018 nfl draft thread

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Matt Miller's Top 50:

1. RB Saquon Barkley, Penn State
2. DB Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama
3. OG Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame
4. EDGE Bradley Chubb, North Carolina State
5. QB Sam Darnold, USC
6. QB Josh Rosen, UCLA
7. QB Josh Allen, Wyoming
8. CB Denzel Ward, Ohio State
9. LB Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech
10. LB Roquan Smith, Georgia
11. OT Connor Williams, Texas
12. CB Josh Jackson, Iowa
13. QB Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma
14. RB Derrius Guice, LSU
15. WR Calvin Ridley, Alabama
16. S Derwin James, FS
17. RB Ronald Jones II, USC
18. LB Rashaan Evans, Alabama
19. DL Maurice Hurst, Michigan
20. EDGE Harold Landry, Boston College
21. CB Isaiah Oliver, Colorado
22. C Billy Price, Ohio State
23. OT Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame
24. WR Courtland Sutton, SMU
25. LB Malik Jefferson, Texas
26. DL Da'Ron Payne, Alabama
27. S Ronnie Harrison, Alabama
28. EDGE Sam Hubbard, Ohio State
29. EDGE Marcus Davenport, UTSA
30. DL Vita Vea, Washington
31. EDGE Arden Key, LSU
32. CB Carlon Davis, Auburn
33. RB Sony Michel, Georgia
34. OT Kolton Miller, UCLA
35. C James Daniels, Iowa
36. TE Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State
37. DL Harrison Phillips, Stanford
38. DL Derrick Nnadi, FSU
39. OG Isaiah Wynn, Georgia
40. WR Christian Kirk, Texas A&M
41. LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State
42. WR D.J. Moore, Maryland
43. S Justin Reid, Stanford
44. TE Mark Andrews, Oklahoma
45. OG Will Hernandez, UTEP
46. CB Mike Hughes, UCF
47. CB Jaire Alexander, Louisville
48. S Kyzir White, West Virginia
49. WR James Washington, Oklahoma State
50. TE Mike Gesicki, Penn State

[mraynrand]

When did 'EDGE' become a thing?

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When did 'EDGE' become a thing?

Last couple of years to describe a 3-4 OLB or a 4-3 rush end. Its not perfect. Matthews is more of a edge type player than Perry, but Perry has the measurables. Perry is almost an Elephant too.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Anybody else feel Darnold is overrated? There are comparisons to Andrew Luck. I don't see it at all. I think Josh Rosen looks like the best QB, but there seem to be character concerns with him. Not really "face of the franchise" material. Lamar Jackson has longevity concerns. Mayfield is a talent, but he has off the field concerns (although his leadership has been praised) and he's short. Josh Allen has the most talent in the group, but most think he'll end up being the biggest bust. I have a feeling he's going to kill the combine, do well in his interviews, and somebody will fall in love with him. His talent might be worth the risk.

[sharpe1027]

Or the sorceress of castle greyskull who gave the something something sword to Adam making him He-man. Sheesh

I believe it is the power sword.

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Anybody else feel Darnold is overrated? There are comparisons to Andrew Luck. I don't see it at all. I think Josh Rosen looks like the best QB, but there seem to be character concerns with him. Not really "face of the franchise" material. Lamar Jackson has longevity concerns. Mayfield is a talent, but he has off the field concerns (although his leadership has been praised) and he's short. Josh Allen has the most talent in the group, but most think he'll end up being the biggest bust. I have a feeling he's going to kill the combine, do well in his interviews, and somebody will fall in love with him. His talent might be worth the risk.

all year i've heard by pundits that darnold is awesome, but he sucked all year. and after every game people would come out and say, but he's actually so good

i think he's very over rated, but i've been really wrong the last few years on the QB side of things

oh, and add in the fact that almost every single USC QB has been a media darling, and almost all of them have been massive flops in the NFL

jackson, seems like mike vick, but without the huge arm. its his running that makes him so good, maybe go the antwan randal el route with him and make him a WR

[call_me_ishmael]

I agree that Darnold seems to be overrated. My favorite QB in college football is Trace McSorland, dude is just a winner, but he is so short.

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Anybody else feel Darnold is overrated? There are comparisons to Andrew Luck. I don't see it at all. I think Josh Rosen looks like the best QB, but there seem to be character concerns with him. Not really "face of the franchise" material. Lamar Jackson has longevity concerns. Mayfield is a talent, but he has off the field concerns (although his leadership has been praised) and he's short. Josh Allen has the most talent in the group, but most think he'll end up being the biggest bust. I have a feeling he's going to kill the combine, do well in his interviews, and somebody will fall in love with him. His talent might be worth the risk.

Isn't Rosen Mr. Inaccurate this year?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Isn't Rosen Mr. Inaccurate this year?

I don't think he's inaccurate. He just seems like a turd, and his teams didn't win much (UCLA barely went .500 with him). Physically, he reminds me of a skinnier Carson Palmer. He's the best looking QB on film.

This QB group seems a bit overrated as far as franchise QB material--although there are more decent prospects than normal. Most will get drafted too high. I didn't expect to like Mason Rudolph (thought he'd be a system QB), but the more I watch of him, the more I like.

It's a good group of RBs. Barkley is a stud. I like Sony Michel a lot.

I just started studying the WRs, and I don't like the ones at the top much. I think Ridley is head and shoulders above the rest. He's not going to wow you with his ball skills or YAC (he's more Marvin Harrison than Terrell Owens), but I love his route running and hands. Michael Gallup is a sleeper I like. He looks better on film than the guys ahead of him.

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Rosen was getting trashed at the Senior Bowl for ridiculous coverage (a few amazing throws) by other reporters pointing out the receivers he missed.

Will be curious what the verdict is of draftniks who value accuracy.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Rosen was getting trashed at the Senior Bowl for ridiculous coverage (a few amazing throws) by other reporters pointing out the receivers he missed.

Will be curious what the verdict is of draftniks who value accuracy.

You're thinking of Josh Allen, the Wyoming QB. Rosen wasn't at the Senior Bowl. He was getting trashed early, but it seems like he improved throughout the week and then he was great in the game. The guy is built like Carson Wentz with identical measurables, similar mobility, even better arm strength, and lesser accuracy. He seems like a good kid. I know he has bust potential, but I'm leaning towards going against the grain and having him #1. The guy has elite size, arm strength, and mobility. In those three traits he might be the best prospect I've ever evaluated. However, the accuracy issues and unknown leadership qualities makes him not as clean of a prospect as Wentz. Ironically, both Wentz and Allen were coached by Craig Bohl. Bohl was the head coach at NDSU before moving onto Wyoming.

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You are probably right.

[HarveyWallbangers]

There is a lot of height to the WR group. There are several 6'2"-6'4" receivers. They aren't overly athletic (e.g Mike Evans) though.

I'm really liking the TE group so far.

[RashanGary]

Marcus Davenport looks interesting.

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Packers must draft this guy based on name alone.

Daniel Jeremiah
Just finished studying ND WR Equanimeous St Brown...very interesting player. Creates consistent separation but the ball placement is deplorable. He's got quickness at the top of his route and his ability to adjust is outstanding. I put a big grade on him.