Official 2018 nfl draft thread

[Bretsky]

Your doubt just fuels SPRIGGS™ offseason.

Spriggs Blows; good thing we used two picks to get him

[pbmax]

Doubt fuels performance. Better than nitrous.

Mike Lombardi thinks he'll make the Pro Bowl next year at RT.

[Fritz]

Don't give up yet. If he sucks or suffers a season-ending injury, then let the criticism fly. Give him that big third year to see if he fingers it out.

[SudsMcBucky]

Doubt fuels performance. Better than nitrous.

Mike Lombardi thinks he'll make the Pro Bowl next year at RT.

Yeah, well Mike Lombardi also thought Doug Pederson was the least qualified person to coach a team that he'd seen in all his 30 years of professional football.

[pbmax]

Yeah, well Mike Lombardi also thought Doug Pederson was the least qualified person to coach a team that he'd seen in all his 30 years of professional football.

[bobblehead]

Yeah, well Mike Lombardi also thought Doug Pederson was the least qualified person to coach a team that he'd seen in all his 30 years of professional football.

So he underestimates people.....by that standart Spriggs should be Jonathon Ogden by week 3.

[Fritz]

...and then get hurt and turn into Marshall Newhouse by week four.

[woodbuck27]

This just into my E-Mail Inbox and for what it's worth:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2759638-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-who-is-the-best-player-in-2018-draft?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nfl

Matt Miller's Scouting Notebook: Who Is the Best Player in 2018 Draft?

MATT MILLER ..........FEBRUARY 16, 2018

9. San Francisco 49ers (coin flip): LB Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech

10. Oakland Raiders (coin flip): CB Denzel Ward, Ohio State

11. Miami Dolphins: QB Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma

12. Cincinnati Bengals: LB Roquan Smith, Georgia

13. Washington: LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State

14. Green Bay Packers: EDGE Marcus Davenport, UT-San Antonio

15. Arizona Cardinals: OT Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame

16. Baltimore Ravens: WR Calvin Ridley, Alabama

17. Los Angeles Chargers: OT Connor Williams, Texas

18. Seattle Seahawks: G/C Billy Price, Ohio State

[pbmax]

I don't think he watched enough Packer games. The last thing the Packers need is a guy tailor made for the slot.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2758739-2018-nfl-mock-draft-mike-taniers-guesstacular-first-round-predictions

14. Green Bay Packers: Denzel Ward, Cornerback, Ohio State

The Packers ranked dead last in the NFL at stopping opponents' No. 1 receivers and 26th at stopping their No. 2 receivers, according to Football Outsiders. Injuries at cornerback were a huge part of the problem, but projected starters Damarious Randall and Quinten Rollins have never been consistent, Davon House is about to enter free agency and the bottom of the depth chart is full of names like Lenzy Pipkins.

Denzel Ward is a mighty-mite type: undersized at 5'10", 191 pounds, but with the physicality of an enforcer on the edge of the defense. Drop him in the slot, and he'll throw his body around against the run while demonstrating range and alertness as an underneath defender. Move him outside and he can grow into a shutdown corner, albeit one who will have to be moved around to avoid size mismatches against Julio Jones types.

This is a safe, down-the-middle choice by the standards of the Packers, who often listened to the music of the spheres when Ted Thompson ran the draft. Look for new GM Brian Gutekunst to be a little more conventional as the Packers try to rebound from a season that exposed their reliance on Aaron Rodgers.

[wist43]

Most of what is wrong on defense was due to Dom Capers and the outgoing coaching staff... it's tough to tell what we really have in terms of talent b/c of how misused everyone was.

That said, we do know some things...

Ryan is maxed out as a backup/ST's guy - has no business in an NFL starting lineup.

Martinez is average, probably needs to be replaced. Maybe some coaching can help him - he's better than Ryan, and occasionally shows some ability, but overall he's not shown he should be a starter in the league.

Randall is a one-trick pony, can't tackle, takes bad angles, and just isn't a very good football player. Needs to be replaced.

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Tackling overall has always been an issue since Capers has been there, and some of that has to do with the skirt-wearing style of players the Packers have preferred in the past. Hopefully with a new staff coming in, we'll see some fundamental changes in approach and attitude.

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As for players in this draft - I don't want Davenport at all. I just don't see him having enough quickness or any other outstanding quality that puts him in the 1st round. To me, from the little tape that I've watched, he looks like a low-round, undrafted FA type.

Been hearing some buzz too about Darius Leonard, LB, South Carolina State... but I didn't like what I saw of him either.

Front seven guys I've looked at that I've like so far are...

Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise State
Arden Key, LB/Edge, LSU
Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virgina Tech
Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, LB, Oklahoma
Harold Landry, LB/Edge, Boston College

[Teamcheez1]

I agree that Ryan is nothing special. Martinez is above average now.

I would have to disagree on Randall. He may have had his issues, but he has the most potential of any of our CB's right now. Does he achieve it? I guess we'll find out.

[call_me_ishmael]

LOL, wist lists 6 top 45 players as the guys he likes. Well no shit sherlock :-p

This is a really deep ILB class. Lots of good players here. I have to imagine the Packers pick two ILBs in the first 5 rounds or so simply because the talent is too good. Pass rushers are going to be tough to come by I think though. My gut feeling is if Edmunds is there, you can't pass him up. He's like Peppers with the size and speed. It's just rare. I doubt he will be, though. He's not a pass rusher so he won't go #1, but he will be top 5 I think. Some of the beat writers like Landry, they say he has great bend.

I wouldn't mind any of those peeps except for Key. Seems to be a head case. Roquan Smith is an absolute animal.

[pbmax]

wist has never seen a field hockey game.

At least watch Meatballs wist. Those girls are brutal.

[jklowan]

Running some mock drafts - Man we have a lot of picks this year, hopefully we do the trade up thing...

1: LB TREMAINE EDMUNDS - VIRGINIA TECH
2: WR JAMES WASHINGTON - OKLAHOMA STATE
3: TE DALLAS GOEDERT - SOUTH DAKOTA STATE
4: DL TIM SETTLE - VIRGINIA TECH
5: LB DAVIN BELLAMY - GEORGIA
6:CB DJ REED - KANSAS STATE
7: LB JACK CICHY - WISCONSIN
8: DL POONA FORD - TEXAS
9: G SKYLER PHILLIPS - IDAHO STATE
10: EDGE ANDREW BROWN - VIRGINIA
11: CB JORDAN THOMAS - OKLAHOMA

[jklowan]

or another

14: LB ROQUAN SMITH GEORGIA

45: EDGE CHAD THOMAS MIAMI (FLA.)

76: TE MARK ANDREWS OKLAHOMA

101: CB JC JACKSON MARYLAND

116: CB QUENTON MEEKS STANFORD

152: G WYATT TELLER VIRGINIA TECH

173: OT GEORGE SENAT WAGNER
175: TE DURHAM SMYTHE NOTRE DAME
177: S JESSIE BATES WAKE FOREST
189: LB AZEEM VICTOR WASHINGTON
232: WR STEVE ISHMAEL SYRACUSE

239: QB NIC SHIMONEK TEXAS TECH