Official 2018 nfl draft thread

[Deputy Nutz]

It will be interesting how the front end of this draft plays out. It reminds me a lot of 2005. It is top heavy with QBs and lots of potential that might force certain players to drop. Derwin James is tremendous Athlete but not completely polished at just 21 years old that might have a chance to fall to 14. Same goes with Minkah Fitzpatrick from Alabama.

As of now the Inside linebacker corps looks strong where the Packers might not have to consider taking one with the 14th pick. The Packers could look at a couple of guys like Roquan Smith or Vander Esch, that could potentially play inside or outside. Same goes for interior defensive linemen.

Packers have to figure out their secondary and pass rush. I can't see them taking an edge rusher if they are committed to Matthews and Perry on the outside. The depth of the Edge rushers isn't great for this draft so the Packer might have to look at reaching for one with the 14th pick or hoping a kid pans out later in the draft. Fitzpatrick, Denzel Ward, and James all could be options at 14. They would all help a secondary that is lacking durability, play making potential, and consistency.


Later in the draft I feel it necessary to mention Natrell Jamerson and Leon Jacobs from Wisconsin. Both had fantastic combines and offer depth and explosiveness on special teams.

[call_me_ishmael]

Davenport put on a show, wow! So dd Landry. The pick will almost certainly be one of those two, or the white dude from Boise.

Davenport's numbers are slightly worse than Clowney's without the intangibles, as in, everyone knew Clowney was a star from a young age.

Landry's numbers are almost spookily similar to CM3.

My gut feeling is Davenport will be gone and Landry will be the pick.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenBayPackers/comments/820qme/davenport_vs_perry_vs_matthews_vs_chubb_vs_landry/dv7i8w2/

[wist43]

I don't care what Davenport's numbers were at the combine, he doesn't show up on film. I'll look at more film of him, but at this point I don't want him.

As for Landry... I like everything I've seen of him.

[run pMc]

If they can coach him to stop the run I might come around on Landry. From what I've read he had some trouble vs. high talent OT's as well...but I imagine that will happen. The highlight tapes sure make him look good.

Hard to say what BG will do...but in the days after the combine everyone sounds like a sure fire All-Pro.

[Deputy Nutz]

Landry doesn't do enough to warrant the 14th pick in the draft

[HarveyWallbangers]

Vander Esch can be a second round pick. His athleticism doesn't transfer on the film I just watched of him. I don't see him being an immediate upgrade over Martinez, sure he is better than Ryan, but you don't need to use the 14th pick in the draft to find a guy better than Ryan.

Roquan Smith isn't polished either, but his athleticism shows up on film. He can cover a back or even a slot receiver, but will get eaten up by blockers. He keeps himself involved in plays, has a motor. His arm tackles will cost him at the next level. His greatest attribute is that his speed allows him to make plays all over the field. He is not a plugger type of ILB. His athleticism will be a plus when looking at matchups against the opposition. He can stay on the field during passing downs.

Vander Esch is an interesting one. His combine numbers are almost identical to Brian Urlacher. When I watched the first half of the Oregon game, he looked every bit as good as those numbers. He took on blocks, knifed around blocks, he got deep in his drops, he showed some rush ability, he covered a back in the flat and caused a fumble. The second half of that game looked much worse.

Vander Esch = 6'4 1/4" 256, 33 7/8" arms, 9 3/4" hands, 4.65 40, 20 bench reps, 39.5" vertical, 124" broad jump, 6.88 3 cone, 4.15 short shuttle
Urlacher = 6'4" 258, 33" arms, 9 3/4" hands, 4.61 40, 27 bench reps, 34" vertical, 122" broad jump, 6.94 3 cone, 4.18 short shuttle

I don't think there's any concern that he's Kyler Fackrell 2.0, but there were some consistency issues that I have. He did look very smooth in his drills at the combine. I'll have to find more games to watch. I guess I wouldn't be opposed to drafting him. I think he'll continue to rise. He played ILB in mostly a 3-4 at Boise State in the game I watched.

[Deputy Nutz]

I agree with Partial, Landry doesn't do anything in the run game

In fact he looks to be a liability

[HarveyWallbangers]

Landry's measurables are comparable to Matthews, and he looked better on film than I thought he would. I'm not ready to say he's CMIII though. He didn't look that good. There are things to like though. Again, with the dearth of pass rushers in this draft he'll continue to rise.

Harold Landry = 6'2 1/4" 252, 4.64 40, 24 bench reps, 36" vertical, 119" broad jump, 6.88 3 cone, 4.19 short shuttle
Clay Matthews = 6'3" 240, 4.62 40, 23 bench reps, 35 1/2" vertical, 121" broad jump, 6.90 3 cone, 4.18 short shuttle

Tremaine Edmunds is the guy I want, but after the combine I don't think there's any way he drops to #14. Not sure if it's worth trading up for him though. Davenport is a crap shoot. I'll have to dig into Josh Sweat's film after his combine performance.

[pbmax]

Does anyone have the 10 yard split for Landry? Because outside of motor, that quick get off was Matthews most dominating skill.

[pbmax]

03/06/18 - 2018 NFL Combine Winners: Harold Landry, DE, Boston College...After leading the FBS in sacks in 2016, Landry had a forgettable senior season due to injury. However, he helped remind scouts why he is deserving of first-round consideration. At 6-2 and 252 pounds with 33-inch arms, Landry ran a 4.64 40-yard dash with a 1.58 10-yard split, 6.88 three-cone and 36-inch vertical. Cut from the same cloth as Vic Beasley, Landry should hear his name called on night one of the draft. - Dane Brugler, NFLDraftScout.com


Matthews ran a 1.49 split. He looks rail thin at 250 lbs.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Does anyone have the 10 yard split for Landry? Because outside of motor, that quick get off was Matthews most dominating skill.

Landry had a good split of 1.58. I think he was second to Josh Sweat in that category. Matthews had a ridiculous 1.49 split.

Chubb had 1.63u. Davenport had 1.63u.

[HarveyWallbangers]

DP

[Smidgeon]

Landry's measurables are comparable to Matthews, and he looked better on film than I thought he would. I'm not ready to say he's CMIII though. He didn't look that good. There are things to like though. Again, with the dearth of pass rushers in this draft he'll continue to rise.

Harold Landry = 6'2 1/4" 252, 4.64 40, 24 bench reps, 36" vertical, 119" broad jump, 6.88 3 cone, 4.19 short shuttle
Clay Matthews = 6'3" 240, 4.62 40, 23 bench reps, 35 1/2" vertical, 121" broad jump, 6.90 3 cone, 4.18 short shuttle

Tremaine Edmunds is the guy I want, but after the combine I don't think there's any way he drops to #14. Not sure if it's worth trading up for him though. Davenport is a crap shoot. I'll have to dig into Josh Sweat's film after his combine performance.

"CMIII II"

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Does anyone have the 10 yard split for Landry? Because outside of motor, that quick get off was Matthews most dominating skill.

What's Landry's Wonderlic score, even though the Wonderlic is kinda racist and it doesn't measure football IQ?

Leaked sources say the Claymaker scored 27. However, I'd argue that the Claymaker's most dominating trait is his high football IQ. Dude is one smart motherfucker on the football field.

I know, Deputy Nutz hates the Claymaker b/c of his penchant for freelancing. But if the Claymaker sees a bootleg coming presnap, who gives a fuck that his assignment is to cover the flat? Just attack the QB, as the Claymaker did to Sanchez in the Packers' dismantling of the Chip Kelly Eggles 2 or 3 seasons ago (Sanchez ran a bootleg and an Eggle reciever was WIDE OPEN - thank Zeus the Claymaker freelanced and sacked Sanchez).

[wist43]

Landry doesn't do enough to warrant the 14th pick in the draft

You're nutz, Nutz

Landry has the quickness, and can get low and bend enough to be a serious threat off the edge. You can't coach that. The other stuff can be coached up. I'd definitely take him at 14.

I wouldn't consider Davenport before the 4th round.