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  • It never fails. After reading about the perceived weaknesses of each player, I wind up pessimistic about them all.
    Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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    • Originally posted by The Shadow View Post
      It never fails. After reading about the perceived weaknesses of each player, I wind up pessimistic about them all.
      True dat. I always feel unqualified to assess these guys. Just look at the difference between Nutz and me w/respect to Davenport. If Nutz is right, he could develop into a real solid player. If I'm right, he's JAG. It's probably good I have my job as pixie dust spreader on the Tilt-a-whirl, cuz I wouldn't make it as an NFL scout.
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • Somewhere up in the attic I have Pro Football Weekly Draft Guides dating back to the early 70's. I may go up there & dig them out. Reading about Joe Montana, Reggie White & James Lofton's weaknesses might cheer me up a bit.
        Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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        • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          My fear is all circumstantial. Except for QBs, no position provides for more mistakes than chasing pass rush in the first round. Its a weak pass rush EDGE draft. Pick 14 is close to top value for these guys.

          So my conclusion is that (unless they can trade to early 20s) they get batter value elsewhere.

          There could be a big payoff to trading down if someone is convinced Arizona is taking Lamar Jackson.
          Yes.
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          • who should move up in the draft

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            • Originally posted by The Shadow View Post
              It never fails. After reading about the perceived weaknesses of each player, I wind up pessimistic about them all.
              Exactly you don't want to draft any of them.

              Factor in that it's going to cost a shitload of CASH to keep Aaron Rodgers chip off of Aaron Rodgers shoulders.

              The Green Bay Packers Pass on every Pick in the 2018 NFL DRAFT and celebrate that wisdom by opening many bottles of:

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              • Originally posted by gbgary View Post
                A good question gbgary.

                Buffalo will get their QB at Pick NO. 12.

                After that these Teams may consider QB Lamar Jackson, Louisville and Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma should be available mid to end of Round One or Round Two and 'in fact' as we're seeing in our Mock Draft; Mason Rudolph remains on the Board after 59 Picks are in.

                Teams that I see possibly interested in moving up to select QB Lamar Jackson and tossing aside that some Analysts are even implying that he may not be selected in Round One: ( Noting that Arizona may seriously covet Lamar Jackson and he's being Mocked to them.)

                The Baltimore RAVENS

                The LA Chargers

                The Cincinnati Bengals

                The New England Patriots

                THe New Orleans Saints

                The Pittsburgh Steelers

                THe Jacksonville Jaguars

                All have an interest and very possibly drafting at QB.
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                • Ogbonnia Okoronko Edge Oklahoma. He has all the best and worst of a pass rusher. He is too damn small with short arms and can be stalled if he can't get the offensive lineman leaning one way. He has great get off, and great hips. He needs to attack half a man better and get arm extension but his arms are so short anyways. He is a great athlete and can get skinny through the gap better than anyone.

                  He can play outside linebacker in a 3-4 but would get worked as a 4-3 defensive end.

                  I love his motor, and his explosion

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                  • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                    Ogbonnia Okoronko Edge Oklahoma. He has all the best and worst of a pass rusher. He is too damn small with short arms and can be stalled if he can't get the offensive lineman leaning one way. He has great get off, and great hips. He needs to attack half a man better and get arm extension but his arms are so short anyways. He is a great athlete and can get skinny through the gap better than anyone.

                    He can play outside linebacker in a 3-4 but would get worked as a 4-3 defensive end.

                    I love his motor, and his explosion
                    I liked him too. But he is short. Can he just learn to spin and wrong foot the Tackle like Miller?
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                    • He is great at redirecting, but as soon as the tackle can square up on him he is dead.

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                      • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                        Ogbonnia Okoronko Edge Oklahoma. He has all the best and worst of a pass rusher. He is too damn small with short arms and can be stalled if he can't get the offensive lineman leaning one way. He has great get off, and great hips. He needs to attack half a man better and get arm extension but his arms are so short anyways. He is a great athlete and can get skinny through the gap better than anyone.

                        He can play outside linebacker in a 3-4 but would get worked as a 4-3 defensive end.

                        I love his motor, and his explosion
                        I predict he's picked in Round Three and sometime soon after USC's OLB Uchenna Nwosu is selected.
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                        • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                          Ogbonnia Okoronko Edge Oklahoma. He has all the best and worst of a pass rusher. He is too damn small with short arms and can be stalled if he can't get the offensive lineman leaning one way. He has great get off, and great hips. He needs to attack half a man better and get arm extension but his arms are so short anyways. He is a great athlete and can get skinny through the gap better than anyone.

                          He can play outside linebacker in a 3-4 but would get worked as a 4-3 defensive end.

                          I love his motor, and his explosion
                          He might still be there in the second too I think

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                          • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                            Ogbonnia Okoronko Edge Oklahoma. He has all the best and worst of a pass rusher. He is too damn small with short arms and can be stalled if he can't get the offensive lineman leaning one way. He has great get off, and great hips. He needs to attack half a man better and get arm extension but his arms are so short anyways. He is a great athlete and can get skinny through the gap better than anyone.

                            He can play outside linebacker in a 3-4 but would get worked as a 4-3 defensive end.

                            I love his motor, and his explosion
                            He could just join the Dean Lowry Army. Fit right in.

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                            • HAHAHA!!!!

                              I think his arms are proportional to his body where Lowry is just as weirdly short arms.

                              I like him better than the USC linebacker Uchenna Nwosu.

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                              • Just looking at the board here in Nagler's mock draft:



                                Best case for the Packers is that Payne and Sony Michel sneak up into the top 14, pushing down a better player. I just don't see anyway that James is available at 14, but if he is, you take him. More than like I think "the fab 7" defenders (Chubb, Smith, Edmunds, Fitzpatrick, Ward, James, Vea) are all gone. If you cannot get one of those defenders, you're reaching for a player in my extremely uninformed opinion. Rather than reach for a player, I would much rather trade down. I'm flexible on either a few slots, mid-twenties, or even out of round 1 all together.

                                I haven't been following the draft as closely this year. It just doesn't seem like there is a lot of talent that fits the Packers needs.
                                Last edited by call_me_ishmael; 04-25-2018, 02:39 PM.

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