More Banjo: Week 6 @ Minnesota

[mraynrand]

Agreed. The only reason to hit a QB who has already thrown a ball is to hurt him. It's time for the Packers to start hitting people back like that. Old school baseball rules.

It was a brilliant move. If you can KO arguably the best player in the league and not even get a penalty, you're money. Probably the best tackle Barr will ever make. Packer should train their defense off that video.

[Pugger]

Agreed. The only reason to hit a QB who has already thrown a ball is to hurt him. It's time for the Packers to start hitting people back like that. Old school baseball rules.

Yup, Barr was going for the kill shot. Taking out #12 now has improved their chances to win the division. Don't be surprised if our defenders get a little more aggressive the next time we play MN.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The only reason to hit a QB who has already thrown a ball is to hurt him.

No, the goal is to keep the QB nervous and his feet happy. Pressure. If you shake him up- good. But the idea is not to break his collar bone, that is just a delightful possibility.

I remember in high school football, when we played an option team, the defensive end was instructed to tackle the QB hard every play, whether he pitched the ball or not. The goal was to wear the QB down, as well as remove one option. Idea is not to create an injury. (OK, maybe 1970s high school football is a little different than 2017 NFL.)

[pbmax]

No, the goal is to keep the QB nervous and his feet happy. Pressure. If you shake him up- good. But the idea is not to break his collar bone, that is just a delightful possibility.

I remember in high school football, when we played an option team, the defensive end was instructed to tackle the QB hard every play, whether he pitched the ball or not. The goal was to wear the QB down, as well as remove one option. Idea is not to create an injury. (OK, maybe 1970s high school football is a little different than 2017 NFL.)

I feel like you are artificially increasing the distance between causing fear/nervousness and causing injury in your explication.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Quinten Rollins is on IR.

Iredeemable recruits?

[Harlan Huckleby]

I feel like you are artificially increasing the distance between causing fear/nervousness and causing injury in your explication.

What is the point of any hard tackling in football?

It's a game of emotion and aggression and domination, snowflake.

you want to rattle the opponent, make them hesitant.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If anybody else is still confused, we can step outside and have a demonstration.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I support all the new rules to protect players in both the NFL and College. I expect both games will become less violent/dangerous, and that is an inevitable and good thing. I'd like to see NFL adopt college rule on targeting. But within the rules, it is still a rough game, and defensive backs in college are still smacking receivers hard. QBs still taking hits.

[pbmax]

What is the point of any hard tackling in football?

It's a game of emotion and aggression and domination, snowflake.

you want to rattle the opponent, make them hesitant.

Of course, but that renders the space between fear/intimidation and trying to hurt them very small. Saying players aren't trying to hurt them is not true.

Most are probably not trying to end their year though.

[mraynrand]

Most are probably not trying to end their year though.

But that is a delightful possibility.

[pbmax]

But that is a delightful possibility.

To some definitely. Thankfully, it wasn't to Tommie Harris. But plenty of "good guys" are trying to do it: Matthews, Reggie White

When I played, just to complete the circle Harlan started, I would have happily hit you hard enough to knock you out for a couple plays. But I wasn't looking for an injury to cause. You would have had to make it very personal to get that response. One kid did this, but I never got the chance.

[Harlan Huckleby]

When I played, just to complete the circle Harlan started, I would have happily hit you hard enough to knock you out for a couple plays. But I wasn't looking for an injury to cause.

I assume most athletes are like this. I remember in football, hockey, sometimes wrestling, it was just pleasurable to hit someone. Or boxing with those gloves our parents foolishly got us for Christmas. It is fun to crash into somebody. The thought of the opponent breaking a bone or ligament is the furthest thing from your mind.

When there is an injury in pro sports, I see players on both teams look genuinely concerned. I think there is a real brotherhood of competitors.

[mraynrand]

When there is an injury in pro sports, I see players on both teams look genuinely concerned. I think there is a real brotherhood of competitors.

I didn't see any concern on Sunday from the Viking bench


(when it's an obviously very serious injury your statement is largely true)

[pbmax]

M3 PC

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 6m6 minutes ago
#Packers coach Mike McCarthy said QB Aaron Rodgers will require surgery for his broken collarbone. Likely means his season is over.

Packer Report @PackerReport 2m2 minutes ago
Three years of investment in Hundley, MM says. Likes his QB room. Then not pleased with a Kaepernick question.

PREDICTABLE AS RAIN. REPORTERS WRITING AS THOUGH SOME OTHER REACTION WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU THINK CK DESERVES A SHOT, WERE JUST IGNORING 10 YEARS OF PRECEDENT

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13 2m2 minutes ago
McCarthy is really agitated at the podium. He is unhappy with the performance yesterday and got hot over a question about Kaepernick.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 2m2 minutes ago
McCarthy clearly not happy with questioning about bringing in another QB in. Said too much invested in Hundley and Callahan to go that way.

Packer Report @PackerReport 3m3 minutes ago
MM believes hit on Rodgers: "I didn't like the hit. It wasn't necessary. It was totally unnecessary."

UNNECESSARY IS GOOD DESCRIPTION BUT DOESN'T REALLY GET YOU ANYTHING

Packer Report @PackerReport 2m2 minutes ago
"Everybody needs to clean their house up," MM says. Clearly not happy with weekly improvement.

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13 2m2 minutes ago
McCarthy reiterating how frustrated he is with the quality of play yesterday against the Vikings. Everyone needs to clean it up. #Packers

[pbmax]

Cohen
McCarthy said the personnel department is looking at some guys for a potential third QB spot on the practice squad. #Packers

Spoon
McCarthy's mantra now: Don't try to do too much. Focus on your job.

Wilde
Aaron Rodgers' surgery date has not yet been set. #Packers coach Mike McCarthy very clearly took issue with Anthony Barr's hit.