Put up or Shut up

[bobblehead]

I have defended TT and M3 often against the charge that they are lucky morons who landed Arod.

The truth is that now we get an answer. This isn't like last time where our backup plans fell apart in preseason and then our emergency plan fell apart in Seneca Wallace. Our backup has 3 camps in the system and is the guy they have groomed for this moment. They don't need to win out or even make the playoffs necessarily, but I think that going .500 the rest of the way is a reasonable expectation. The schedule from here is not that tough. If the organization is in good hands they win half the games from here. If not, maybe it is time to get Rodgers the coach and GM he deserves.

[mraynrand]

I provisionally agree with you. APHR. ha ha

[Cheesehead Craig]

Absolutely agree.

[wist43]

I have defended TT and M3 often against the charge that they are lucky morons who landed Arod.

The truth is that now we get an answer. This isn't like last time where our backup plans fell apart in preseason and then our emergency plan fell apart in Seneca Wallace. Our backup has 3 camps in the system and is the guy they have groomed for this moment. They don't need to win out or even make the playoffs necessarily, but I think that going .500 the rest of the way is a reasonable expectation. The schedule from here is not that tough. If the organization is in good hands they win half the games from here. If not, maybe it is time to get Rodgers the coach and GM he deserves.

This is why playing great defense should always be at the forefront... a constant.

Landing a franchise QB?? If you have the other pieces in place, then you're looking at championships.

Denver recently won a SB with a substandard Peyton Manning... they did it with defense. Seattle won their SB by riding their defense. Baltimore, Tampa, et al... None of those teams had a franchise QB.

We've had a franchise QB for the past 25 years - and we have 2 SB's to show for it. That's unacceptable in my view.

Unfortunately, the Packers have always been poor evaluators on the defensive side of the ball. Combine that with an over-the-hill fuddle-muddled dunderdummy like dunderdummy... and you have a decade of terrible results. Thank the football gods that the defense was able to hold it together for one season under dunderdummy, and we were able to steal a championship - but, for the most part, our organization is fundamentally flawed and there's no fixing it.

[QBME]

I have defended TT and M3 often against the charge that they are lucky morons who landed Arod.

The truth is that now we get an answer. This isn't like last time where our backup plans fell apart in preseason and then our emergency plan fell apart in Seneca Wallace. Our backup has 3 camps in the system and is the guy they have groomed for this moment. They don't need to win out or even make the playoffs necessarily, but I think that going .500 the rest of the way is a reasonable expectation. The schedule from here is not that tough. If the organization is in good hands they win half the games from here. If not, maybe it is time to get Rodgers the coach and GM he deserves.

Agree. Also, BH is in his contract year. Put up or shut up indeed.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I expect we'll see good things from Hundley, he has the talent.

[mraynrand]

Having great franchise QBs results in consistent high level of performance. Given that, it's difficult to accumulate top tier surrounding talent. Really only Belicheat has been able to keep the high level of performance and playoff success. Denver may be entering a similar stretch with the fine work of Elway (I barfed a bit after writing that), but Baltimore, Tampa, Seattle, Denver etc. etc. have all experienced dips low enough to garner top picks. Even the 49ers had to purchase their final championship with Steve Young before dropping into the abyss after 14 years of success. The difference is that the Packers squandered at least two legit chances at championships in '97 and '14. It happens. Marino and the Dolphins squandered them all then dropped into the abyss. Packers are, in part, victims of their own great consistent success.

[yetisnowman]

Hundley could play pretty well, and we will still lose a lot of games. The talent around him is not adequate, especially with all the injuries.

[pittstang5]

Hundley is the least of my worries. He knows the system. MM will game plan to his strengths. I think he would be fine and could win some games. He's not ARod, no one is. But, it's the lack of running game, a MASH unit of an O-line and the lack of a decent defense that hinder this team. With nothing to help him, he'll struggle.

[beveaux1]

Hundley is the least of my worries. He knows the system. MM will game plan to his strengths. I think he would be fine and could win some games. He's not ARod, no one is. But, it's the lack of running game, a MASH unit of an O-line and the lack of a decent defense that hinder this team. With nothing to help him, he'll struggle.

I think he'll play OK. I think the team results will not be very good. My guess is that we'll be 0-2 in the next 3 weeks. Saints have a good team as do the Lions and we're a MASH unit.

[Rutnstrut]

The knock on Hundley in the draft was that he misses reads and takes sacks. Well that seems pretty damn accurate as it's what he still does. If this team finishes at 8-8 I will be shocked. I have said before that TT and stubby are mediocre and get bailed out by AR.

[pbmax]

Hundley will be fine.

The rest of the team though, might get him killed or behind by 30 in the second half.

[wist43]

We'll be drafting in the top half of the draft... maybe this will be enough to expose the deficiencies on defense and we can get rid of Capers finally.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nfl.com/player/bretthundley/2552588/careerstats

Brett Hundley #7 QB...Green Bay Packers | Official Team Site ...Height: 6-3 Weight: 226 Age: 24
Born: 6/15/1993 Phoenix , AZ ... College: UCLA ...Experience: 3rd season

NFL 2017-18 .... TDS 1 ... INT 3 ...YDS 157 ... QBR 40.9

[woodbuck27]

This Season is very likely 'a Write Off '.

The excuses are already written.

TT and MM will be back doing the same Ole same Ole again next Season.