Official Fire Dom Capers Thread

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Ben Fennell @BenFennell_NFL

#Packers Defensive Issues... Getting off the field.

Scoring Efficiency - 39.9% (31st)
RZ Scoring Efficiency - 100% (32nd)

3rd Down Conversions - 44.4% (30th)
3rd Down Completion % - 69.7% (32nd)
10 Play Drives - 28 (31st)
5 Minute Drives - 24 (32nd)

8:37 PM - Dec 11, 2017

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Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13 14m14 minutes ago
McCarthy: "Dom Caper is an outstanding football coach. That doesn't change."

Jan 26, 2017


Lol!!

[texaspackerbacker]

I wouldn't trust any article that refers to the Redskins as "Washington Pro Team".

Same ol' same ol' - a bunch of know nothings try to pin some poor Packer D statistics on Capers when the obvious fact is, the talent overall on the Packers D is deficient, especially among the D backs. We just can't line up and stop teams. We need to scheme them and guess/pick one area to stop and risk that they beat our D in other areas. It seems like a lot of games, the Packers try to play it straight the first series or two; The opposition takes it right down the field; So Capers adjusts with some scheming, and things get better - for a while anyway until the offense adjusts; Then rinse and repeat.

I hate to think of how bad things would get without Capers and the scheming and adjusting.

Thank you Ted for the personnel situation.

[The Shadow]

Sorry, I happen to like Ted. Is he perfect? No. He could have done more in free agency, and he should have always had a vet qb on the roster behind Rodger. But overall, he has been very, very good - and supplied Capers with sufficient talent to craft an effective defense. The fact that the Pack has been struggling for years on D falls on Capers' shoulders, as well as his staff. When a secondary has 'communication problems' that last for YEARS (and allow receivers to run free), then the system that allows poor communication is at fault.
Capers needs to go. The NFL has passed him by.

[beveaux1]

Sorry, I happen to like Ted. Is he perfect? No. He could have done more in free agency, and he should have always had a vet qb on the roster behind Rodger. But overall, he has been very, very good - and supplied Capers with sufficient talent to craft an effective defense. The fact that the Pack has been struggling for years on D falls on Capers' shoulders, as well as his staff. When a secondary has 'communication problems' that last for YEARS (and allow receivers to run free), then the system that allows poor communication is at fault.
Capers needs to go. The NFL has passed him by.

What you’re saying is true for the most part. Thompson has really drafted pretty well, but what we lack is defensive playmakers. This is likely the result of our success. Drafting late in the first round decreases the chances of getting a difference maker with our pick.

We have solid starters at many positions on defense if we have our full compliment of players. House, King, and Randall are solid starters at CB. Burnett and Dix are solid safeties. Martinez, Matthews, and Perry are good LBs. Daniels and Clark are very good DL.

Our problem is that we seem to never have our full compliment of players and we don’t have anyone that the opposing offense has to worry about and plan for. No Von Miller’s or JJ Watts. No Everson Griffin or Chandler Jones. No Aquib Talib or Patrick Peterson.

A player like that is not acquired through free agency, they’re too valuable to let go in free agency. They have to be drafted or acquired out of college and their development takes skill and luck. The great majority of these difference makers are taken early in the first round. The last two that the Packers had were Matthews and Shields. Without them, I’m not sure Capers is the right coach with the right approach to solidify this defense.

[pbmax]

No pass rush. That explains it all.

Well, plus some shoddy tackling.

[Rutnstrut]

Perhaps Dom is still great with the x's and O's. Maybe he's just not that good at the people part of the job.

[Fritz]

Is Fackrell actually showing any promise? Is he rounding into form as a JAG now, moving himself up from "bust" status, or is he destined to be even better, perhaps "slightly above average"?

[Maxie the Taxi]

Is Fackrell actually showing any promise? Is he rounding into form as a JAG now, moving himself up from "bust" status, or is he destined to be even better, perhaps "slightly above average"?

I predict both he and Randall will play in the Pro Bowl within 5 years.

[mraynrand]

Is Fackrell actually showing any promise? Is he rounding into form as a JAG now, moving himself up from "bust" status, or is he destined to be even better, perhaps "slightly above average"?

"The coaches are high on him. He is ready to break out any time now. Lot of potential there."

reality: Ceiling = Shea McClellin

[mraynrand]

I predict both he and Randall will play in the Pro Bowl within 5 years.

Fackrell is four years away from retirement

[texaspackerbacker]

Seems like we've had way more high draft picks going for defense lately. The #1s Ted has gotten us haven't played like #1s. The #2s and #3s haven't looked like 2s and 3s either for the post part. I still have hopes Randall will amount to something, but you expect more of a #1 than we have seen. Fackrell was what? a #3? He should be a helluva lot farther along, especially where he is older and supposedly more mature than other second year players. Martinez is about what you'd expect from a #3 or 4; Ryan is not even close. Kenny Clark if he continues to improve, just might be good enough to make up for Datone.

We just don't get as much quality from our draft picks as most teams. I suppose you can give the head coach and coordinators some blame, but the buck stops with the GM.

And of course, almost zilch in quality free agents

[Maxie the Taxi]

Seems like we've had way more high draft picks going for defense lately. The #1s Ted has gotten us haven't played like #1s. The #2s and #3s haven't looked like 2s and 3s either for the post part. I still have hopes Randall will amount to something, but you expect more of a #1 than we have seen. Fackrell was what? a #3? He should be a helluva lot farther along, especially where he is older and supposedly more mature than other second year players. Martinez is about what you'd expect from a #3 or 4; Ryan is not even close. Kenny Clark if he continues to improve, just might be good enough to make up for Datone.

We just don't get as much quality from our draft picks as most teams. I suppose you can give the head coach and coordinators some blame, but the buck stops with the GM.

And of course, almost zilch in quality free agents

Don't forget that because of our draft position, our #1 picks are de facto #2 picks, etc. etc. We get the bottom of the barrel of each round, unless we trade up.

[mraynrand]

We just don't get as much quality from our draft picks as most teams.

I'd like to see your analysis. Give a few examples.

[pbmax]

Is Fackrell actually showing any promise? Is he rounding into form as a JAG now, moving himself up from "bust" status, or is he destined to be even better, perhaps "slightly above average"?

He is playing more solid, doesn't get pushed around as much and is always around the ball.

But he is not yet using those freak athletic traits to get to the passer. If he did, it would be an immediate transformation for the defense because the move the QB off his spot guy is what they are missing.

Matthews, Daniels, Clark and Brooks/Perry are all in good spots in the pocket but they aren't getting disengaged fast enough. But they would be in prime position to clean up. Kinda the Datone Jones role of second guy gets the sack.